Message from @nagarjuna
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right, but then spook is a spook, all concpets are spooks
I'm into it, my name is a bhuddist guy who says similar stuff
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honestly
and i love baudrillard. it is a weird question what you do with that exactly
lambo
but it's similar to early marx talking about "sensuousness" that's gesturing beyond concepts. but then some amrxists hate early marx so i remain confuzzled
Marxist hate early marx?
Or are these Leninists/Maoists/etc ye'r referring to?
for example Althusser
and Lenin yeah
some people are like anything before the german ideology, no thank you
lol
I'm just not that well read so it's hard for me to know what's going on
Same.
I guess I'll have to dig deeper than this shit.
hahahaha the blind leading the blind here
Well, I try to look up marxist videos
trying to get the contexts
and what not
das nice
tried the audiobook it went ok
lambo DAS nice
what's your strand of marxism/politics? we don't have flairs here I'm sad
I'm probably a regular ML
But Maoism has concepts that are interesting
I should dig deeper in that realm
What about you?
I'm a Baudrillardian but no one says that. People think of it as postmodernism but what's beyond concepts (the ineffable) is really important to me so it makes it hard to say.
But I definitely want a social revolution, something like global governance even if its not a state, no war, everyone has enough, and we just shit post and travel the stars
lmao
Do you have brief explanation on what Baudrillardian tenets they stand on?
Well different people might emphasize different things
basically he picks up on Bataille and Mauss ideas about giving gifts as the basis for economics
Ah
we are wanting to give the best gift because it shows we are powerful, so similar to Foucault's biopolitics the powerful are so because they "give us" our captive lives here
And so he criticized Marx for thinking the economic is at the bottom of everything, although then Marxists will say Baudrillard misunderstood how Marx meant that
Economics the bottom of everything?
my angle isn't that I need to prove Marx is wrong or anything Baudrillard is just what got me to where I am now *shrugs*
Giving gifts? Essentially more welfare and care for the citizens?