Message from @Mr. X

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2018-09-12 16:15:11 UTC  

I'm back fellers

2018-09-12 16:19:03 UTC  

They are but poetic thought is about getting beyond concepts. It's like Buddha pointing at the Moon. The finger is the concept, the Moon is the ineffable

2018-09-12 16:19:22 UTC  

I don't think we disagree on idealism

2018-09-12 16:20:38 UTC  

I'm mainly on the point that the "value" of an idea is determined by society, which I'm pretty sure we can agree. I say that ideas do not have any inherent value behind them, and that the value put on them is subjectively determined by society, and on a personal scale, by the individual.

2018-09-12 17:00:24 UTC  

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2018-09-12 17:16:18 UTC  

I'm with you. I mean to take an example, nationalism. People identify with their nation because of material conditions: there are a lot of people in the world, we're vulnerable to violence, so we band together to try and protect ourselves from the larger social outside. Nations are connected to religions, since both are based on myths having to do with origins (national history / creation myths) and a sense of purpose perhaps

2018-09-12 17:18:42 UTC  

I think this is a Marxist position, perhaps: simple denunciation is no good, you have to address the root causes of the behavior and ideas which impede communism. Where this intersects with the economism debate is that people aren't just about material interests, it's more that they are about the meaning of their life, being faithful in some way to whatever the respect, whether that's the government/army, or their ancestors (cultural heritage). So a problem we face is that people insist on having things just the way they want them, as part of a demand to recognize the reality of their culture

2018-09-12 17:19:09 UTC  

This is something that all kinds of people do, but the desires of the powerless are of course ignored (eviction of the lakota from the black hills for example)

2018-09-12 17:20:06 UTC  

But, when it comes to people who have relatively more power, their irrational expectations for reality have material consequences since they will behave irrationally to try to make the world fit their vision of their cultural destiny

2018-09-12 17:20:39 UTC  

In other words, ideas are not only downstream from material conditions-> they also change material conditions

2018-09-12 17:21:11 UTC  

of course, I think ideas themselves are material conditions, so it's just that different aspects of material reality are mutually influencing each other

2018-09-12 18:00:08 UTC  

Oooh

2018-09-12 18:00:32 UTC  

Now Im hungry

2018-09-12 18:55:34 UTC  

I just ate

2018-09-12 18:56:22 UTC  

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2018-09-12 18:56:28 UTC  

fucking yeet

2018-09-12 19:21:34 UTC  

Took my Chevy to the levee but the levee was dry

2018-09-12 19:31:02 UTC  

Great awakening got banned of Reddit. Notable maybe

2018-09-12 19:36:45 UTC  

Reddits gay.

2018-09-12 19:38:35 UTC  

Yeah but gay backwards is just yag so

2018-09-12 19:52:08 UTC  

Thats autistic

2018-09-12 19:52:22 UTC  

Welp Imma be a criminal now

2018-09-12 19:52:36 UTC  

Sounds pretty yag fam

2018-09-12 19:54:15 UTC  

im an Alabama nigger and I wanna be free
Hell with the NAACP
I don't drink
I don't cuss
I wanna ride on the front of the bus
Im an Alabama nigger and I wanna be free
Hell with the NAACP
I wanna eat where the white folks feed
Cause Im white on the bottom of my feet
Im an Alabama nigger and I wanna be free
Hell with the NAACP
We don't screw like the white folks do
We just screw to we can do
Im an Alabama nigger and I wanna be free
Hell with the NAACP
I wanna be white more and more
So I can bitch at the nigger next door
Im an Alabama nigger and I wanna be free
Hell with the NAACP
Im glad this tune came along
We done more out one nigger song
Im an Alabama nigger and I wanna be free
Hell with the NAACP
I wanna be white don't you understand
So I can play in a trashy white band
Im an Alabama nigger and I wanna be free
Hell with the NAACP
Im an Alabama nigger and I wanna be free
Hell with the NAACP

2018-09-12 19:54:21 UTC  

Same

2018-09-12 19:54:30 UTC  

what's the NAACP?

2018-09-12 19:54:52 UTC  

The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People

2018-09-12 19:55:13 UTC  

Why "Hell with the NAACP"? then?

2018-09-12 19:55:41 UTC  

I think it's within

2018-09-12 19:55:54 UTC  

What>

2018-09-12 19:56:02 UTC  

The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People is a civil rights organization in the United States, formed in 1909 as a bi-racial endeavor to advance justice for African Americans by a group including W. E. B. Du Bois, Mary White Ovington and Moorfield Storey.Wikipedia

2018-09-12 19:56:28 UTC  

Yag yag yag

2018-09-12 19:56:42 UTC  

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2018-09-12 19:57:15 UTC  

Blacks who like the confederate flag

2018-09-12 19:57:24 UTC  

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2018-09-12 19:57:57 UTC  

Confedergay

2018-09-12 19:58:29 UTC  

ha

2018-09-12 19:59:20 UTC  

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2018-09-12 20:02:21 UTC  

wtf

2018-09-12 20:21:43 UTC  

Cringey