Message from @Eccles

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2019-12-20 18:17:46 UTC  

I don't see Trump as terribly important to it - he's transient, either way he's gone in 2024

2019-12-20 18:17:47 UTC  

Taking them is one thing. Doing something with it is another matter entirely. They didn't do so much from 2016-2018 but there's been a slight changing of the guard so who knows. I'm not thrilled about this Defense spending bill he's signing today.

2019-12-20 18:18:04 UTC  

They really fucked up, 2016-2018

2019-12-20 18:18:06 UTC  

-really-

2019-12-20 18:18:22 UTC  

i understand why, they were scared of Trump because they got their arses handed to them

2019-12-20 18:18:27 UTC  

but it was a massive wasted opportunity

2019-12-20 18:18:57 UTC  

(as an outside observer)

2019-12-20 18:19:15 UTC  

the democrat propaganda goes almost unchallenged in the UK

2019-12-20 18:19:55 UTC  

a future republican president wants to make himself popular with the uk press if he can

2019-12-20 18:19:58 UTC  

and with the people

2019-12-20 18:20:03 UTC  

> retarded black people

Is there any other kind?

2019-12-20 18:20:12 UTC  

that's unkind, unpronouncable

2019-12-20 18:20:19 UTC  

Yep. Didn't mean to derail the UK pol room with US stuff. But from a colonist to the mother empire, my hat's tipped to you. Well done

2019-12-20 18:20:35 UTC  

Whether it works here remains to be seen

2019-12-20 18:20:47 UTC  

I don't feel like there's a cult of support like with Trump

2019-12-20 18:20:58 UTC  

It feels more like there's collective relief at dodging a comminst bullet

2019-12-20 18:21:05 UTC  

i.e. we're giving him the benefit of the doubt

2019-12-20 18:21:25 UTC  

but he's basically being called, to give a poker analogy

2019-12-20 18:22:56 UTC  

Possibly because Trump at least had a profile that was -seen- to be successful from a layman's point of view, in business and on tv

2019-12-20 18:23:14 UTC  

Boris, by contrast, was an OK but eccentric mayor, and a tv/media personality

2019-12-20 18:23:22 UTC  

It's not concrete

2019-12-20 18:25:56 UTC  

Trump's appeal is that he makes the autistic left screech in pain and fear and it's provided massive amounts of entertainment. Politically however, I don't think much is getting done. We're still spending at unsustainable rates and the debt continues to skyrocket. Sure we're better economically today than when Obama left but I don't see what's being done to rein in the government to help maintain that prosperity. If anything it's bigger than ever which is what he ran against.

2019-12-20 18:27:01 UTC  

If you're going to run that level of deficit, you want to be able to show somethign for it. A transient amount of improvement in the economy is all very well, but he'd better off imho doing something for long term improvement

2019-12-20 18:27:05 UTC  

Same here - infrastructure

2019-12-20 18:27:30 UTC  

"Making the fucking trains run on time" is a good start

2019-12-20 18:30:01 UTC  

Danger with using deficit spending to improve the economy in that direct way, is it's a ponzi scheme

2019-12-20 18:30:10 UTC  

"Will you give way?" "No."

2019-12-20 18:30:13 UTC  

rekt

2019-12-20 18:30:57 UTC  

THat's showing leadership 🙂

2019-12-20 18:31:17 UTC  

They're enjoying it. That's a good sign

2019-12-20 18:32:17 UTC  

At this rate it seems very likely that Boris is on course to win the next election

2019-12-20 18:32:26 UTC  

Right. At some point the bill comes due. That's my fear, is the bubble crashes and gives way to the far left socialists looking to punish the people for Trump.

2019-12-20 18:33:08 UTC  

Labour hasn't really recovered at all from their defeat and no leaders have appeared who might actually have a decent chance of winning back the North and so far there have been no major mistakes by the Conservatives

2019-12-20 18:33:34 UTC  

Early days yet. Let's wait and see

2019-12-20 18:34:10 UTC  

"so far" lol it's only been a week. Give them time.

2019-12-20 18:35:01 UTC  

Well my point is that not many major bills are passed in a governments term and so far the main one that being Brexit has been passed in a way that Brexit Voters support

2019-12-20 18:37:53 UTC  

let's start the ok boomer party

2019-12-20 18:38:23 UTC  

run on a platform of getting rid of dumb shit like anti-privacy laws and the communications act