Message from @β‚³ U T U M N πŸ¦‹

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2019-12-29 23:49:26 UTC  

``The data shows exactly the opposite was the case as Labour voters are overwhelmingly Remainers, outnumbering Labour Leavers by two to one.``
But where are these people located? They're not in Bassetlaw, Redcar or Blyth Valley. They're in London, Birmingham and Cardiff.

2019-12-29 23:49:49 UTC  

And these places will overwhelmingly vote for Labour representatives anyway.

2019-12-29 23:50:03 UTC  

We aren't in Africa. So when Storin says he can dentify you are speaing Bantu but doesnt know which language in the group r what exactly u are saying, there is nothing wrng with that.

2019-12-29 23:50:08 UTC  

If they can't win back the North, they probably won't win another election ever again.

2019-12-29 23:50:45 UTC  

Honestly if we cut Scotland and NI labour will never win again period

2019-12-29 23:50:51 UTC  

Even IF they took the north

2019-12-29 23:51:24 UTC  

In fact the only way the opposition could win is by uniting and calling for proportional representation, however that will lead to more hung parliaments, and less regional representation

2019-12-29 23:51:43 UTC  

FPTP is good for that very reason

2019-12-29 23:52:14 UTC  

And when people come out with the argument "well my vote wont count" tell that to the north who flipped

2019-12-29 23:53:00 UTC  

Cutting Scotland would be both economically and politically beneficial to the UK πŸ€”

2019-12-29 23:54:34 UTC  

@Storin are you sure that's true? When I was looking at the election map, it seemed to me like Labour was totally contained in England. Scotland and NI had their own parties and hardly elected any Labour MPs

2019-12-29 23:54:52 UTC  

Historically these places were Labour though

2019-12-29 23:55:03 UTC  

Or mostly at least

2019-12-29 23:55:06 UTC  

Yea, but for labour to ever win they will have to coalition, the SNP is most likely candidate in exchange for another referendum

2019-12-29 23:55:30 UTC  

LibDems are basically out of the run (and it is a shame the whigs are going down like that) and most other minority parties don't have the numbers

2019-12-29 23:56:31 UTC  

The whole reason nothing got done for the past 3 years by govt was literally because all of the opposition parties worked together to frustrate the tories who held a minority government, and even when they had a few seats majority those few seats would make demands (both remainers and leavers)

2019-12-29 23:57:18 UTC  

That info is well out of date autumn

2019-12-29 23:57:36 UTC  

It's 2010

2019-12-29 23:57:47 UTC  

Of the 59 seats I think 48 are SNP, 3-4 are lib dems, and the rest are tories

2019-12-29 23:57:47 UTC  

I was posting it in reference to "Historically these places were Labour though"

2019-12-29 23:57:49 UTC  

@juryrigging wa'eva bro. I wasn't hatin on him..it was just jestin okay πŸ™‚

2019-12-29 23:58:19 UTC  

If we cut Scotland that means tories would lose 7 seats, but the opposition would lose 52

2019-12-29 23:58:38 UTC  

From a strategic point of view thats a win

2019-12-29 23:59:30 UTC  

Fucking politicians. TV has caused this 'celebrificating' of the cunts. They are fucking civil servants nothing more.

2019-12-29 23:59:41 UTC  

Even so, Labour is strictly English. Cutting off parts of the kingdom doesn't help keep them down

2019-12-30 00:00:07 UTC  

Also we have to factor in Scotland is quite literally a blackhole for money, England basically subsidises Scotland both directly (through the Barnett Formula) and through the EU (the money we give the EU gets sent back to Scotland primarily with caveats)

2019-12-30 00:00:38 UTC  

Also if England withdraws its current contracts from Scotland they will lose approx half of their main industry (ship building)

2019-12-30 00:01:19 UTC  

Look at the grief that the poitical class is causing for the citizens of France. Soon the guillotines will be rolled out.. I mean there's only so much tear gas the population can take. ..

2019-12-30 00:02:33 UTC  

What peeps don't realise is the MoD contracts scottish shipyards to maintain the navy and trident, if they go it will just be moved to newcastle (meaning they will stay tory as well), AND they will have to fund their own army

2019-12-30 00:02:57 UTC  

And frankly they couldn't afford the half a dozen Scottish units that already exist

2019-12-30 00:04:41 UTC  

Honestly if Scotland leaves they will fail as a nation, they don't have the economy or the population (5.5 million) to have any say in the world and even if the EU let them in they will have around 6 seats there as matching the other EU nations instead of the 59 they have in the UK <:PepeLaugh:565528391336329216>

2019-12-30 00:07:49 UTC  

As for labour you will never win London and it is basically capital versus the country, they have a few hold outs up north such as liverpool which are red till they die and south wales

2019-12-30 00:24:08 UTC  

``can we please give John Bercow a people's knighthood``
No <:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

2019-12-30 00:48:36 UTC  

"We need to be able to sell the national park to everybody in Britain, all society, and it's important that it doesn't just become exclusive to one single use group," he said. "The moment we get into that position I think national parks start to lose their relevance and therefore the very reason for calling it a national park and spending public money." **Research shows visitors to the Lake District, where the rugged fells inspired the romantic poets and author Beatrix Potter, are too heavily weighted towards older, able-bodied white people.**

2019-12-30 00:49:28 UTC  

"Africa is too black"

2019-12-30 01:24:15 UTC  

"we must stand for pride in our communities"
but not the white ones.
"Millions woke up to a nightmare on December 13. It’s our duty to make sure that doesn’t happen again."
Make sure that the Tories don't win a democratic election again? Okay, fascist.