Message from @Veraic
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Because what is entailed by having a desire is to be potentially or actually out of accord with the object of that desire(a standard). So either god has potential(desires which it may or may not be out of accord with), which obviously rules out pure act, or god is actually out of accord with its desires, which makes god imperfect, and still not fully actual(which Christians reject)
As for that church (non)response to interpretation, it just begs the same question of interpretation except directed at the church.
not really imo
thats a bit like saying that god not being able to sin prevents him from being purely actual
Your problem comes when you realize God's desire isn't about something he lacks, but what we lack.
thats a good way of putting it
its like gods desire is not a thing he wants per say its a thing that he has already implemented through the test of free will
Yeah none of this actually addresses the objection
You don’t get to just equivocate on desire.
I've already addressed it, you assume desire is always selfish
actually we do @Blueroad
Idk why you think desires being selfish has anything to do with this
What it means to have a desire is to have a standard in mind that you strive to be in accord with
selfish is when you put yourself above your people
aka pride
what does selishness even have to do with this
again, points flying right over your heads
If you have potential to be in or out of accord with a standard you 1) are not purely actual and 2) are imperfect
So either god doesn’t have desires(which brings another host of problems) or god does and the Christian view is incoherent
The supreme is all around us, its immaterial but it does have human avatars
What is the topic?
its not, the supreme does not have desires as a human does, the Lord is above those things
A human avatar does not have the same desires as a normal person as well, because of their holyness and oneness with the Lord
So how does a supreme have desires
Of course a supreme being has desires, though they are disimilar to humans. What is the issue?
the Body is what causes desires, the soul does not
So how does a supreme have desires
I’ve explained it earlier on just scroll up
And this only applies to an abrahamic god or anything similar to it
Where?
I just told you where
Scroll up
ah just so anyone wondering, i am not talking about an Abrahamic view on God
"Up" is not the clearest statement.
lol that was clear
Make the screen you are currently viewing pan up by either swiping your finger or by scrolling with a mouse
Sorry for being unclear
Oml.