Message from @Eoppa

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2019-09-14 21:24:43 UTC  

Bruh let's just expand the means of politics to the whole place

2019-09-14 21:24:51 UTC  

You have New York, California and bunch of population heavy cities demanding how the people who live in the country and on ranches how to live.

2019-09-14 21:25:14 UTC  

At the end it seems to be very fair.

2019-09-14 21:25:40 UTC  

no it doesnt

2019-09-14 21:25:43 UTC  

Democratic liberals win sometimes. Conservatives win sometimes. Unless you’d rather the Democrats have a monopoly on the country.

2019-09-14 21:25:44 UTC  

the union should be dissolved

2019-09-14 21:25:52 UTC  

Not dissolved.

2019-09-14 21:25:57 UTC  

But seriously reformed

2019-09-14 21:25:57 UTC  

dissolved

2019-09-14 21:26:03 UTC  

In the end individuals don't win elections

2019-09-14 21:26:05 UTC  

Groups do

2019-09-14 21:26:18 UTC  

Unless you’re talking about making each state a country

2019-09-14 21:26:25 UTC  

In which case I could almost agree

2019-09-14 21:26:29 UTC  

If you don't give farmers equal representation to the city men, then the election is not equal

2019-09-14 21:26:46 UTC  

(For example)

2019-09-14 21:26:50 UTC  

That’s what the electoral college does though

2019-09-14 21:26:55 UTC  

Ik

2019-09-14 21:26:58 UTC  

I support it

2019-09-14 21:27:00 UTC  

I literally want each state to be their own country

2019-09-14 21:27:01 UTC  

Oh

2019-09-14 21:27:15 UTC  

Anyways I'm off break

2019-09-14 21:27:18 UTC  

@Wubbzo y’know. I actually kinda like that idea.

2019-09-14 21:27:30 UTC  

@Attika or regional unions at the very least

2019-09-14 21:27:56 UTC  

such as the west coast countries together, the midwest together, etc

2019-09-14 21:28:01 UTC  

@Attika So your logic is that if the hicks tell the city folk what to do it will fix the problem? With the system we currently have a presidential election can be won on literally 23% of the popular vote. Don’t try to tell me that isn’t ridiculous. I’m not even asking you to say that a flat democracy is the right answer, but the system we have currently is fundamentally flawed.

2019-09-14 21:28:04 UTC  

Yeah. Or bring it back to where it used to be, at the founding when each state was a country and simply agreed to work together on various things

2019-09-14 21:29:21 UTC  

@DrRisen no. But giving the low population heartland a chance in an election is important. Actually no, I don’t think that’s ridiculous. I wouldn’t mind it at all, what matters is the states.

2019-09-14 21:29:36 UTC  

Would the USA function well like that today?

2019-09-14 21:30:25 UTC  

Electoral college allows low population states to still represent their interests against a high population state.

2019-09-14 21:31:14 UTC  

I support a regional union for all the US states for example kind of like the EU but different

2019-09-14 21:31:28 UTC  

As far as I’m concerned the president is supposed to be a representative of the federal US, so votes should be counted on the basis of being a member of the US, not on a basis of your state. The representation of states is covered by Congress. @Attika

2019-09-14 21:31:57 UTC  

In a city or small country, maybe a direct democracy would work. But the USA is a massive empire with territories, states and people with completely different ideologies and backgrounds and beliefs. The electoral college is the most efficient way to elect a leader.

2019-09-14 21:32:57 UTC  

@DrRisen I completely disagree. The president is the commander in chief of America and thus should represent every states interest. Congress’s power is limited when compared to the president.

2019-09-14 21:33:28 UTC  

Im not asking for the entire US to be a direct democracy, I’m asking for the Executive branch to be a representation of America as one people.

2019-09-14 21:33:44 UTC  

The united states should be abolished. It is too large and diverse.

2019-09-14 21:33:52 UTC  

🤷🏼‍♂️

2019-09-14 21:33:57 UTC  

damn

2019-09-14 21:34:08 UTC  

Maybe not abolished

2019-09-14 21:34:10 UTC  

And I completely disagree with the concept that Congress is underpowered compared to the president.

2019-09-14 21:34:15 UTC  

But perhaps split up.

2019-09-14 21:34:16 UTC  

If anything they have more power.