How about only I can vote

I saw this most obviously in Washington state. Where the west is super liberal and full of large cities and crime and everything horrible. But in the east they are average Hicks. Yet because the west inflicts so many rules and laws such as a porch permit, just the permit, that costs 7000 dollars, it hinders development and freedoms because the west is trying to run the east as if they were a city.

Now imagine that only on a country scale

@Eoppa That makes about as much sense as the electoral college does in the modern world.

Democracy as a whole doesn't make sense

Bruh let's just expand the means of politics to the whole place

You have New York, California and bunch of population heavy cities demanding how the people who live in the country and on ranches how to live.

At the end it seems to be very fair.

no it doesnt

Democratic liberals win sometimes. Conservatives win sometimes. Unless you’d rather the Democrats have a monopoly on the country.

the union should be dissolved

Not dissolved.

But seriously reformed

dissolved

In the end individuals don't win elections

Groups do

Unless you’re talking about making each state a country

In which case I could almost agree

If you don't give farmers equal representation to the city men, then the election is not equal

(For example)

That’s what the electoral college does though

Ik

I support it

I literally want each state to be their own country

Oh

Anyways I'm off break

@Wubbzo y’know. I actually kinda like that idea.

@Attika or regional unions at the very least

such as the west coast countries together, the midwest together, etc

@Attika So your logic is that if the hicks tell the city folk what to do it will fix the problem? With the system we currently have a presidential election can be won on literally 23% of the popular vote. Don’t try to tell me that isn’t ridiculous. I’m not even asking you to say that a flat democracy is the right answer, but the system we have currently is fundamentally flawed.

Yeah. Or bring it back to where it used to be, at the founding when each state was a country and simply agreed to work together on various things

@DrRisen no. But giving the low population heartland a chance in an election is important. Actually no, I don’t think that’s ridiculous. I wouldn’t mind it at all, what matters is the states.

Would the USA function well like that today?

Electoral college allows low population states to still represent their interests against a high population state.

I support a regional union for all the US states for example kind of like the EU but different

As far as I’m concerned the president is supposed to be a representative of the federal US, so votes should be counted on the basis of being a member of the US, not on a basis of your state. The representation of states is covered by Congress. @Attika

In a city or small country, maybe a direct democracy would work. But the USA is a massive empire with territories, states and people with completely different ideologies and backgrounds and beliefs. The electoral college is the most efficient way to elect a leader.

@DrRisen I completely disagree. The president is the commander in chief of America and thus should represent every states interest. Congress’s power is limited when compared to the president.

Im not asking for the entire US to be a direct democracy, I’m asking for the Executive branch to be a representation of America as one people.

The united states should be abolished. It is too large and diverse.

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