If you don't give farmers equal representation to the city men, then the election is not equal

(For example)

That’s what the electoral college does though

Ik

I support it

I literally want each state to be their own country

Oh

Anyways I'm off break

@Wubbzo y’know. I actually kinda like that idea.

@Attika or regional unions at the very least

such as the west coast countries together, the midwest together, etc

@Attika So your logic is that if the hicks tell the city folk what to do it will fix the problem? With the system we currently have a presidential election can be won on literally 23% of the popular vote. Don’t try to tell me that isn’t ridiculous. I’m not even asking you to say that a flat democracy is the right answer, but the system we have currently is fundamentally flawed.

Yeah. Or bring it back to where it used to be, at the founding when each state was a country and simply agreed to work together on various things

@DrRisen no. But giving the low population heartland a chance in an election is important. Actually no, I don’t think that’s ridiculous. I wouldn’t mind it at all, what matters is the states.

Would the USA function well like that today?

Electoral college allows low population states to still represent their interests against a high population state.

I support a regional union for all the US states for example kind of like the EU but different

As far as I’m concerned the president is supposed to be a representative of the federal US, so votes should be counted on the basis of being a member of the US, not on a basis of your state. The representation of states is covered by Congress. @Attika

In a city or small country, maybe a direct democracy would work. But the USA is a massive empire with territories, states and people with completely different ideologies and backgrounds and beliefs. The electoral college is the most efficient way to elect a leader.

@DrRisen I completely disagree. The president is the commander in chief of America and thus should represent every states interest. Congress’s power is limited when compared to the president.

Im not asking for the entire US to be a direct democracy, I’m asking for the Executive branch to be a representation of America as one people.

The united states should be abolished. It is too large and diverse.

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damn

Maybe not abolished

And I completely disagree with the concept that Congress is underpowered compared to the president.

But perhaps split up.

If anything they have more power.

@Wubbzo explain

@DoobyCooby each state and territory become sovereign nations or something to that extent

@DrRisen President can use executive orders. Congress can’t.

@Wubbzo what would be the bonuses and negatives?

@Attika the bonuses would that the federal government would not intervene in what each state does, and the negatives would be that some states would likely make poor choices once separating

@Wubbzo better choice I think would be to abolish the federal government.

@Attika well yeah kind of, however I think after abolishing the federal government the states should confederate

Congress alone can introduce legislation. Congress can overrule presidential consent to a law. Congress alone can approve of Supreme Court Justices and therein only affirm pro-Congress justices. Congress alone can modify the constitution. Congress alone can declare war. Congress alone can impeach, convict, and and remove a president. @Attika

Underpowered my ass.

@DrRisen Okay I get you’re Point. Technically you’re wrong cause half of those things the president can do in an executive order. But I get where you’re coming from. So why does it matter if the electoral college stays in or not?

It matters because I believe it is a fundamentally flawed system. Maybe a direct democratic election isn’t the solution, but the method we have now doesn’t cut it. @Attika

lol

imagine not wanting a totalitarian one party dictatorship

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