Message from @AlexTheLad217
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Lmao
I’m not arguing with someone who says shit like america is the only reason nato can exist
To deny the military potential of europe is first grade level of knowledge of the current world
european nations fund their own nations somewhat
but the vast majoirty of their defense is with our money
over 75% at least
in some cases
Because they haven’t had to for 30 years now and we’ve seen massive increases in spending over the past five years as soon as a possible threat emerges in russia
That’s all I will say for tonight
Gn I’m tired
Gn lad
norway increased their budget from 6 billion to almost 8 billion
thats hardly a difference when we spend over 700 billion on our military
Ye
And most tax goes to military
imagine if 600 billion were to stop being funnled into NATO
it would complely stop the militarys of NATO that didnt already fund their own militarys like Turkey does
Yep
600 billion isn’t funneled into NATO you absolute mong. Literally read the chart you just posted it says only 30 billion is directly spent on europe with the rest of the spending going towards our own military which has assets across the globe. Most european defense in operated by europeans. More or less we provide manpower and weapons systems for europeans to purchase.
And to pick on Norway as an example of spending when they have a population less than Indiana isn’t saying much
Maybe look at Germany or Britain. Germany specifically put funding into recruiting some 20,000 men over the last two years in response to Russia.
germany also trains tank maneuvers with broomsticks and is notoriously underfunded
and does not want to change
Page 4 graph 5
NATO guidelines require at least 2% funding of GDP into defence
USA is 5.28 %
Which is completely arbitrary
europe and canada 1.48
Germany has begun to change as has Europe in the face of russia
out of 919 billion dollars in 2018
605 was USA dollars
313 was europe and canada combined
You can see in the link you just posted that non-american spending has been rising
Because now they have something to spend it for, Russia.
There hasn’t been a need for most european nations to spend so much for the past three decades, unlike the US has as the world peace keeper.
2011 percentage of GDP spent on defense
1.52 in 2011 1.48 in 2018
Germany (Euros) 34,630 36,168 34,593 34,749 35,898 37,598 40,447 41,913
from 2011 to 2018
the monetary value has slightly increased