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Good question
Beef with some boys about the succession of the Roman Empire
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America
Christian
Pro-America/Ukraine free of either russia or the west

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Good question
Beef with some boys about the succession of the Roman Empire
Male
America
Christian
Pro-America/Ukraine free of either russia or the west

First lmao

Is it a youtuber who said it

Liberalism turns you brown

Sounds condescending but ok

reed ion gays

So how about that Turkish invasion of Syria

Kurds are God’s people in the middle east

Competitively they’re about halfway through exodus about to have God come down and lead them out of slavery.

The EU is the only hope for a pan european identity though

Nationalism is gay

To act as if one society is better than another based on arbitrary things such as language, culture, and blurry ethnic groupings is faulty at best.

The idea of a nation state is faulty as well often being nothing more than an arbitrary divider especially with larger nation states even in Europe

I’m not confusing axiom with arbitrary I really do mean the word I use. With the language example there’s no characteristic of language that is better inherently better so my point is that nationalists that use it as a talking point are using arbitrary claims to superiority.

I really don’t understand what you’re getting at here. I gave some examples of things people use to define national groups when they’re poor descriptions when people can be culturally one group and speak the language of another and vice versa pointed out how ethnic groups are blurry. These aren’t the only things that define national identities but they’re the biggest so I pointed them out as bad descriptors among others. Your bit about anarchy has no connection to the conversation so whatever.

Nationalism is primarily used to say we are one people and not them, literally a divider. Saying your group is different than everyone else’s. Especially when dealing with previously mention blurry areas that don’t perfectly fall into one category as well as empowering/motivating some groups to attempt to assimilate others that don’t perfectly fit into a group.

Doesn’t have anything to do with what I was saying so whatever. Still ignores that hyper-nationalistic states often attempt to expand their borders to acquire resources.

“Nice try jew”

Okay

No federal government

we barely know anything about it yet chill

“Let me point out a fallacy and then ignore how it’s still arbitrary to draw lines based on language when people mix in border regions and have language continums.”

@Deleted User I recognized that I make the continuum fallacy but my point isn't that you can't make distinctions between two groups it's that there's no clean and agreeable method to make a divide between them like modern borders of nation states. A lack of method that has often made nationalists to resort to violence and oppression in history to make a clean border while depriving those along the border the right to choose to have elements of both groups. This doesn't just apply to just languages either.

I know but it doesn't invalidate that the modern nation state doesn't fit perfectly with reality and so in my opinion it shouldn't be an ideal to strive for

it should be reformed as an idea to fit reality instead of trying to alter it

pointing out that internationalists cause deaths doen't justify nationalist killing either

that doesn't work for me because humans are semi-migratory and are quick to move

the soil part falls apart in reality

what's the difference from someone moving from one nation right across the border vs one person moving from one end of the country to the other

it relies on the borders of a nation state which are based on vague groupings of language, culture, ethnicity, etc

not to mention others have lived there before you so unless you're 100% right of conquest I don't see how you can justify barring others claim to the land as well

racial revanchism? like repatriating people or some eugenics?

@DrRisen why is anti-Ukrainian sentiment in particular outright ban-able?

Fr though it’s a shame I haven’t taken the time to look into the scarlet revolution in Ukraine more

The 2014 revolution was called that right or am I thinking of something else?

That’s right

It’s such a stupid name imo sounds like a 80’s hair rock band

@Deleted User how would your racial revanchism function so to say? Would you support ethnic cleansing or more passive incentives to provide a Lebensraum? Also bare with me it’s been a while since I’ve even read about just what nazi ideas where on Lebensraum.

It’s really not tho

Are you german or what ethnic group we talking about

>Celtic

Tf kinda former territorial areas does an anglo-celt have? You mean like the british empire?

Is that just the white areas and south africa or all the empire that wasn’t really settled by whites

Canada, anzac, america as white areas

But an economy for such a state would be almost non-possible without massive economic isolationism

Drastically curbing the wealth, quality of life, and power of the state

But people want prosperity and goods not available in the home country

An autarky won’t be able to provide the same economic prosperity and amount of goods that free trade would

I’d assume you’d allow free trade within the empire

It would be a smaller system of free trade for the empire and the rest of the world would keep its free trade. The rest of the world outproduces the empire by far and it would progress technologically far ahead of the empire in a decade or more.

It’s a doomed strategy

The world would leave you behind in isolation

Like the Qing or the warsaw pact

ns germany existed for little over a decade and at war for half of it looting and pilfering europe to keep itself going. Without a substantial input of resources like germany had the empire would suffer a slow decline like the warsaw pact or qing

Tf does lolbert mean

Libtard?

Oh like lolbertarian?

Never seen that before

It’s not even economic rhetoric it’s historical precedent, societies that isolate themselves too much fall behind with time.

I gave you the example of the Qing or the Warsaw pact

Both isolated their economies from the wider world and fell behind while the rest of the world embraced advanmemts and came out ahead.

Didn’t even say ns germany couldn’t survive being invaded and sanctioned

I said they had the opportunity to take all the resources of germany in the half of their existence which is why they didn’t fall behind

Did you not read the reasoning linking to how they’re relevant or are you just going to ignore them?

That or point out what’s the problem with it

That’s not a correlation both nations isolated their economies and restricted trade with the outside world to the point their own domestic industries couldn’t acquire new technologies, education, and resources to advance their own positions.

And so fell behind technologically, in outputs, and in prosperity.

Great argument

Great argument

Couldn’t as in couldn’t do so at the rate to be competitive in the global market

And so over time continually fell behind in everything

It’s not just a market mong it’s technology, systems, tools, methods, and entire industries.

It doesn’t but when you have the entire rest of the world developing and sharing technologies and working off the backs of each other vs you’re one empire, the entire rest of the world will come out ahead.

A restart of the british empire that would have to cut its massive preexisting ties with the rest of the world would cripple it economically for decades much less be unable to compete with the rest of the combined world.

@pozu what kinda larper

How will the world have more tech? Because there’s billions more people contributing and working together vs like 300 million anglos.

More money, scientists, and everything needed for tech advancement.

Sound just like the germans thinking no Soviet tank could go up against a panzer

The middle east, Mediterranean, east asia have been as well no reason they can’t either

“Ohh but they’re not white so they’ll obv fail lol”

Those tens of thousands of tanks built before america even joined the war?

Including the t34?

You’re saying the Americans paid for the resources to build the tanks?

In a few key areas yes

Looks like the americans didn’t bother bringing most of their id till the germans we’re effectively stalemated. But I will say again what resources america did provide in 1941-2 were vital things such as high-octane fuel and trucks.

What’s absolute cope is you thinking the germans couldn’t possibly have lost the war to the soviets without the entire world supporting the ussr

Actual cope addict

Just like how it was obvious the germans were about to destroy the royal navy and invade Britain after 1940 so they give Britain a bunch of aid as well

And the fúcking stalin quote

They were still our practical ally that we supported more than we should have in retrovision

Unlike the axis the allies actually worked together despite ideological differences to defeat germany

Because it’s better to have well equipped soviet bleed than Americans

Often times europe’s failures have been the result of their own corrupt and vain leaders

Especially in Europe to europe reslations

Jews have sided with all sides and are just good at getting out before the ship sinks due to ample chances for practice

The sense of identity jews have with each other though is astonishing and a major contributor to their success and survival as a people

More so than even germans did in ww2 I’d say

The nazi’s could only dream of a society as socialized as the jewish diaspora socialize with each other