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also that vox article is so hilariously biased
“vulnerable minorities”
did you mean:
“illegal immigrants who are committing a crime and should not be in a country illegally”
@Flat it’s actually not a crime though and it’s pretty well protected under international law. Sovereignty of borders only applies insofar as it is exerted by that nation
It’s a crime in Hungary, where the law is being applied
ergo it’s a fucking crime
Except applying for assylum isn’t and the only thing differentiating a valid refugee and an illegal immigrant is the conclusion of a long, drawn out process
The difference between a legal refuge and illegal is the crimes they commit
Being...?
how about the increase of sexual assault crimes in Western Europe?
or maybe the fact that simply stabbing someone is also oh... a crime
Right. It’s not the immigration that’s the issue there though is it? It’s probably the rape and the stabbing
legal migrants come to country's and wait in line for entry and citizenship meanwhile illegals cross borders and commit crimes on large scales
the immigration is the issue immigration is a serious issue
moving from one location to another and trying to settle there is migration
I agree. I’m all for controlling immigration but Hungary is going to face a world of hurt if it expects to control it when migrants have already entered the country as its party to a lot of strong treaties which govern its behaviour in those areas
The tact it should run with is stronger border enforcement
Hungry has been one of the strongest nations in europe advocating for border security and national sovereignty
the only issues they have been facing is from the dictatorial EU
Awesome, Hungary is not a powerful nation in the eu bloc though and it really needs the eu more than the eu needs it
It doesnt need to stand alone as a power if it can be apart of a growing coalition of countries which is the case
A growing coalition of poor countries
the EU has done nothing but erase national borders and place the fate of nations in the hands of elites in Brussels who have their own interests in mind not people in countries across the block
these nations actually are very rich Polands economy has been rising over the past years and Italys economy is the fourth largest in the block
the only issues these nations have faced are from Brussles and the EU itself
Cool. That doesn’t mean Hungary is in a great position to do anything about that. Neither Poland nor Italy is the draw of the eu and we both know this
I never stated it was in a great position
your assuming my points now
I never stated any one country is the focus of the EU either
Right so you’d agree it’s between a rock and a hard place here?
all i stated was there is a growing coalition of nations in the EU opposing open border polices and advocating for national sovereignty over following orders from a set of unelected elites in Brussels
The European Parliament is elected
i believe Hungry and all these other nations once had no hope of saving themselves from the flow of migration
It’s not an election people pay attention to, but it is elected directly
now they have the opportunity to change that entirely
well this parliament election is going to be focused on very heavily