Message from @CronoSaturn
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the immigration is the issue immigration is a serious issue
moving from one location to another and trying to settle there is migration
I agree. I’m all for controlling immigration but Hungary is going to face a world of hurt if it expects to control it when migrants have already entered the country as its party to a lot of strong treaties which govern its behaviour in those areas
The tact it should run with is stronger border enforcement
Hungry has been one of the strongest nations in europe advocating for border security and national sovereignty
the only issues they have been facing is from the dictatorial EU
Awesome, Hungary is not a powerful nation in the eu bloc though and it really needs the eu more than the eu needs it
It doesnt need to stand alone as a power if it can be apart of a growing coalition of countries which is the case
A growing coalition of poor countries
the EU has done nothing but erase national borders and place the fate of nations in the hands of elites in Brussels who have their own interests in mind not people in countries across the block
these nations actually are very rich Polands economy has been rising over the past years and Italys economy is the fourth largest in the block
the only issues these nations have faced are from Brussles and the EU itself
Cool. That doesn’t mean Hungary is in a great position to do anything about that. Neither Poland nor Italy is the draw of the eu and we both know this
I never stated it was in a great position
your assuming my points now
I never stated any one country is the focus of the EU either
Right so you’d agree it’s between a rock and a hard place here?
all i stated was there is a growing coalition of nations in the EU opposing open border polices and advocating for national sovereignty over following orders from a set of unelected elites in Brussels
The European Parliament is elected
i believe Hungry and all these other nations once had no hope of saving themselves from the flow of migration
now they have the opportunity to change that entirely
well this parliament election is going to be focused on very heavily
I think that’s entirely optimistic with little basis in fact
this election decides the fate of the entire EU
its no bias its simply stating the facts
the leaders across europe have been taken down one by one and nations are moving to the right its just obvious
no bias just fact
these countries have the chance to write their own fate in the elections in May if they win Europe is going to change drastically
I don’t think so. There’s structural reasons Germany and France have taken the stance they have and this is unlikely to deviate for anything but short stretches. European elections also haven’t been moving to the right so much as radicalising. The far left often grows in step with the far right and the Italian election resulted in a coalition of the two
Which hasnt been working great
Germany and France have been the spear heads of globalism in the EU and across Europe that is no longer the case because globalism is dying out
The power is shifting from France and Germany to now represent all nations in the block
Globalism? No, a federalised Europe? Yes. I don’t know what you think globalism is here
the battle is natonlsits vs globalists and the eu elections will be the cross rode battle which decides who gets to shape the lives of the block
And Germany and France are still the big hitters, that’s unlikely to change
gloablism is whats destroyed France and Germany thats what it is
Germany dominates economically and Frances military is only becoming more developed
'They are big in economy and miltary but poltically they are unstable
central government authority being so easily toppled is whats shaking the balance of power in europe away from Brussles
you also just backed up my point