Message from @CronoSaturn
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my entire point is right wing partries are rising all over europe
who cares about polling😂
lmfao
the media polled clitnon at over 70% to win over trump and she lost
polls dont mean anything
Media projected a 70% chance to win, that means she had a 30% chance to lose
also polling is very biased as it askes one group of voters to give their opinion and not others
Unlikely events happen
they where already saying she would win and started calling her madam president before the election even happened
Polling also attempts to take in a representative swathe of the country
the media was all sure she would win and she lost
polling numbers dont mean jack shit until the election actually happens simply basing your support or opinions of polls is ridiculous
polling is not accurate and hardly ever mimics what actually happens in the elections where ever they may be
people are already saying trump will lose because polls predict it
And great, but at this point your stating that you have no evidence and election results don’t back your claims as left leaning parties dominate the European periphery with few exceptions and liberal /conservatives dominate the core.
this idea polling is fact is easily disproved and basing your opinions on the polls is childish. Not saying you specifically but no one should base anything off on polling data that most likely has a bias
i have given you multiple examples of evidence you refuse to except them
i have discussed multiple events you know what i said dont act like you missed it
election results do back me and they are not claims its simply stating the fact
I didn’t say polling is fact, i said it’s representative and broadly predictive, which it is. I’ve showed that election results don’t demonstrate your assertions which you’ve rejected
Some loss for the left
right wing parties are rising across europe your argument against it was two countries that have left wing governments. You had no counter argument for any other nation that i mentioned prior to that
again your using one countrys government as your defense
i never said they where holding all countries so your using two nations as what?there is no point to use them since it doesnt make a counter to anything i said
Except I did as I said earlier far right and far left parties have been growing in lock step and even forming coalitions, as is the Italian case
far left parties have been declining and centrists parties are also taking the hit as well
Italy is a prime example of the nationalist sweep across Europe and the EU as a whole
Maybe you two should look up and show election results and demonstrate which is correct
i have given him multiple events in which right wing parties have burs-ted on to the political map
I have. As I’ve stated, Italy and Greece subvert this narrative and French and German polling don’t show the far right exerting enough pressure to form govt
There may be an upset, but there’s no reason to believe that out of hand
No what you did was use Greece and Spain as examples of two nations with left wing governments which does nothing to refute my argument of right wing parties sweeping europe
its not a small shift in one nation or region this is a mass realignment of political believes and a reclaim of national sovereignty and tradition
hear hear
again your basing your entire argument off of polling in two countries where the media is against right wing movements all together
how is that reliable information>
Italy
Govt formed by m5 (five star) in yellow: left leaning populist
La Lega in green: right leaning regionalist
and this proves my point again. You talked about economies well Italy has the fourth largest in the EU and is seeing a massive rise in nationalist/anti establishment parties
five star and the league are just two examples of this