Message from @Bearer Of The Curse
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You never said anything either
You can make this same argument without incorrectly using the term "socialist"
Argue that they aren't capitalist without using that term
it's easy
I can't, any state intervention is socialist
Circular reasoning
You never told me why my definition was wrong. I have, however, explained the problem with yours.
No you haven't
you just listed your own
You're a dumbass
I don't even mind telling you that
You can still say what something isn't without having to say what it is
I'm not a communist or a socialist, but I know what the terms mean
you don't
I do
I told you it's MoP state or worker owned
simple as that
If you disagree with me you're a goshdarn COMMIE
yes
@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ "One thing more must be noted. If within a society based on private ownership of the means of production some of these means are publicly owned and operated, this still does not make for a mixed system which would combine socialism and private property. As long as only certain individual enterprises are publicly owned, the remaining being privately owned, the characteristics of the market economy which determine economic activity remain essentially unimpaired." - Ludwig von Mises, in Interventionism: An Economic Analysis
It's not as simple as the state owning the MOP. The state CAN OWN THE MOP, but it must be the workers who control the state
Was the communist party comprised of workers in the USSR?
>using the word "crop" in a socialism debate
That is the point of
@Ghost of Descartes Wheres the context of that
"collective ownership"
you dunce
becausr that goes against the entire Austrian school
collectivt ownership yes
and governmental
No
lol
it literally says
You're not reading it. I will mute you until you learn to read
I said worker **or** government ownership
you will be unmuted
Collective ownership and governmental ownership are not mutually exclusive