Message from @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ
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```Socialism, social and economic doctrine that calls for public rather than private ownership or control of property and natural resources. According to the socialist view, individuals do not live or work in isolation but live in cooperation with one another. Furthermore, everything that people produce is in some sense a social product, and everyone who contributes to the production of a good is entitled to a share in it. Society as a whole, therefore, should own or at least control property for the benefit of all its members.```
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XinJing Ping is a Fascist
@Kazimir Malevich Seize the means of reproduction!
Putin is a liberal, stop slandering him pls.
LMAO
@The Big Oof They're both wrong
I am right and you are wrong
Dictionary is just communists infiltrating our speech.
I don't believe in definitions.
@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ You never explained why they are wrong, and you never do. you just say they are wrong, and then use your lolbert definition of capitalism to keep the argument going in circles. Like bearer said, you are literally saying
"I'm right, and you're wrong. I'm right, and you're wrong. I'm right, and you're wrong. I'm right, and you're wrong. I'm right, and you're wrong. "
You never said anything either
You can make this same argument without incorrectly using the term "socialist"
Argue that they aren't capitalist without using that term
it's easy
I can't, any state intervention is socialist
Circular reasoning
You never told me why my definition was wrong. I have, however, explained the problem with yours.
No you haven't
You're a dumbass
I don't even mind telling you that
You can still say what something isn't without having to say what it is
I'm not a communist or a socialist, but I know what the terms mean
you don't
I do
I told you it's MoP state or worker owned
simple as that
If you disagree with me you're a goshdarn COMMIE
Same crop
yes
@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ "One thing more must be noted. If within a society based on private ownership of the means of production some of these means are publicly owned and operated, this still does not make for a mixed system which would combine socialism and private property. As long as only certain individual enterprises are publicly owned, the remaining being privately owned, the characteristics of the market economy which determine economic activity remain essentially unimpaired." - Ludwig von Mises, in Interventionism: An Economic Analysis
It's not as simple as the state owning the MOP. The state CAN OWN THE MOP, but it must be the workers who control the state
Was the communist party comprised of workers in the USSR?
>using the word "crop" in a socialism debate
That is the point of
@Ghost of Descartes Wheres the context of that
"collective ownership"
you dunce