Message from @The Big Oof
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Same crop
yes
@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ "One thing more must be noted. If within a society based on private ownership of the means of production some of these means are publicly owned and operated, this still does not make for a mixed system which would combine socialism and private property. As long as only certain individual enterprises are publicly owned, the remaining being privately owned, the characteristics of the market economy which determine economic activity remain essentially unimpaired." - Ludwig von Mises, in Interventionism: An Economic Analysis
It's not as simple as the state owning the MOP. The state CAN OWN THE MOP, but it must be the workers who control the state
Was the communist party comprised of workers in the USSR?
>using the word "crop" in a socialism debate
That is the point of
@Ghost of Descartes Wheres the context of that
"collective ownership"
you dunce
becausr that goes against the entire Austrian school
collectivt ownership yes
and governmental
No
lol
it literally says
You're not reading it. I will mute you until you learn to read
I said worker **or** government ownership
you will be unmuted
They can be the same thing
Collective ownership through the state is socialism
Governmental ownership on its own, is not
Mental gymnastics
it quite clearly says government or
collective (worker)
You're making a fool out of yourself
You can't avoid that
You have convinced nobody
How so?
I'm not the one failing here
Can we abolish government please? I am definately a capitalist I promise.
(hail Lenin)
@Ghost of Descartes "mmarket economy"
Not making an adpopulum fallacy, but part of the purpose of the argument is to convince your opponent
Nobody has been convinced
is not the same thing as a capitlaist economy
In that sense, you have failed
You're clearly being dishonest, it says government or collective ownership
in the defintion I posted
There are other types of capitalism besides an-capism.