@Deleted User It fails to control itself for the sake of society

There's always been many of these factors

Name a system that does

There's almost always been private property, voluntary exchange, etc.

Competition

Capitalism is just free markets

where previously they were controlled

That's not the definition.

Well, we agree that Capitalism hasn't always existed, but its parts have.

I am not in favor of laissez faire

Or anarchy

Well what is Capitalism to you?

Any system with private means of production?

The definition I posted

Markets?

Okay

So I'd disagree where everything is left to the market

I find very little not to like

Previously the state would regulate things to suit the society

There is nothing in the definition that specifies that under capitalism the state can't regulate the market. In fact, the state does so right now in capitalist countries.

Well here we have a problem

The an cap wet dream doesn't exist in modern times. Pretty much every capitalist country has regulation

I'm not just talking about regulation

Well, not regulation as it's usually understood

I think pre-capitalist economies are worth looking at

I mean if you want to call me a capitalist because I'm not a natsoc, or a socialist, or a marxist, go ahead. But I think there's a fundamental problem with defining capitalism so loosely

I went from libertarian to alt right reactionary to realizing that a lot of the ideas I was toying with were genuinely dumb and I needed to ground myself in reality. Socialism is pretty shitty

People in these circles just throw around the term capitalism as this bogeyman that has no clear definition.

I'm not a socialist

There's not just socialism and capitalism

I am aware.

If you want to call me a capitalist in favor of heavy regulation go ahead, but "Capitalism" implies a lot of things I'm not

I'm more of a distributist

I favor guilds over complete free trade. I favor decentralization of the economy by the state. But I still believe in private property

How does capitalism imply a lot of things you're not?

"I favor guilds over complete free trade" capitalism is not "complete" free trade

The way I see it you belong to a big tent of capitalism but you're a special kind of capitalist who has a specific vision in mind

as am I

I suppose if that's how you want to define capitalism. But at that point it pretty much includes every society with private property

I'm not defining it my way. I just defer to the definition people accept:
Capitalism is an economic system based on the private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit.

Yeah at that point fascist corporatism would be considered capitalism due to the existence of private Enterprise