Message from @urban
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Well, we agree that Capitalism hasn't always existed, but its parts have.
I am not in favor of laissez faire
Or anarchy
Well what is Capitalism to you?
Any system with private means of production?
The definition I posted
Markets?
Okay
So I'd disagree where everything is left to the market
I find very little not to like
Previously the state would regulate things to suit the society
There is nothing in the definition that specifies that under capitalism the state can't regulate the market. In fact, the state does so right now in capitalist countries.
Well here we have a problem
The an cap wet dream doesn't exist in modern times. Pretty much every capitalist country has regulation
I'm not just talking about regulation
Well, not regulation as it's usually understood
I think pre-capitalist economies are worth looking at
I mean if you want to call me a capitalist because I'm not a natsoc, or a socialist, or a marxist, go ahead. But I think there's a fundamental problem with defining capitalism so loosely
I went from libertarian to alt right reactionary to realizing that a lot of the ideas I was toying with were genuinely dumb and I needed to ground myself in reality. Socialism is pretty shitty
People in these circles just throw around the term capitalism as this bogeyman that has no clear definition.
There's not just socialism and capitalism
I am aware.
If you want to call me a capitalist in favor of heavy regulation go ahead, but "Capitalism" implies a lot of things I'm not
I'm more of a distributist
I favor guilds over complete free trade. I favor decentralization of the economy by the state. But I still believe in private property
How does capitalism imply a lot of things you're not?
"I favor guilds over complete free trade" capitalism is not "complete" free trade
The way I see it you belong to a big tent of capitalism but you're a special kind of capitalist who has a specific vision in mind
as am I
I suppose if that's how you want to define capitalism. But at that point it pretty much includes every society with private property
I'm not defining it my way. I just defer to the definition people accept:
Capitalism is an economic system based on the private ownership of the means of production and their operation for profit.
Yeah at that point fascist corporatism would be considered capitalism due to the existence of private Enterprise
If people want to counter signal an caps be my guest
Why are you Left and Right?
Spookaswa lol
I hold left wing economic views and right wing social views
what sort of rw social views do you hold (to change the topic)
im peeved that there's a cultural nat role but no white or ethno roles
Generally speaking, my social views are pretty in line with the social views of right-wing populists and identitarians
Well how do you feel about female suffrage, women in the military, women in the workplace, divorce, alimony, and child support