Message from @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

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2019-02-01 14:50:32 UTC  

Yes I know

2019-02-01 14:50:35 UTC  

I never said it didn’t

2019-02-01 14:50:49 UTC  

However the USSR was a socialist economy

2019-02-01 14:50:56 UTC  

State owned the MoP

2019-02-01 14:50:57 UTC  

Okay, so name a socialist pre-Stalin that said market intervention was socialism

2019-02-01 14:51:01 UTC  

You named the USSR

2019-02-01 14:51:06 UTC  

if you know a lot about socialism

2019-02-01 14:51:08 UTC  

Just give me a name

2019-02-01 14:51:23 UTC  

They probably didn’t say anything like that, they just wanted to abolish the market.

2019-02-01 14:51:35 UTC  

As Marx said aswell, socialism was the transition to communism

2019-02-01 14:51:42 UTC  

Socialism was set into place to abolish the market

2019-02-01 14:51:42 UTC  

Name a socialist who defined socialism as the state simply owning the means of production

2019-02-01 14:51:57 UTC  

By using interventionist methods

2019-02-01 14:51:58 UTC  

Marx wouldn't have seen the USSR as socialist

2019-02-01 14:52:05 UTC  

Probably would have

2019-02-01 14:52:08 UTC  

of

2019-02-01 14:52:09 UTC  

production

2019-02-01 14:52:14 UTC  

interventionism is abolishing the market forced

2019-02-01 14:52:22 UTC  

intervention is not owning means of production

2019-02-01 14:52:24 UTC  

Socialism isn’t just means of production owned by the state or workers

2019-02-01 14:52:30 UTC  

it also wants the market abolished

2019-02-01 14:52:45 UTC  

and also to secure the workers owning the MoP, the state must intervene.

2019-02-01 14:52:50 UTC  

its anything realted to state dealing with economic affairs of the state

2019-02-01 14:52:51 UTC  

It wants laisses faire economics gone....Market Socialism is a thing

2019-02-01 14:52:58 UTC  

If socialism is owning the mop, then regulation is not socialism if they don't own it

2019-02-01 14:53:17 UTC  

Yes it also wants to abolish the free market

2019-02-01 14:53:21 UTC  

Through state intervention

2019-02-01 14:53:26 UTC  

hence any intervention is socialist

2019-02-01 14:53:29 UTC  

Regulation is often done with the intent of making the market fairer. Be that an ineffective policy, it's not socialism even with this retarded definition @sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ

2019-02-01 14:53:30 UTC  

Market interventions are not incompatible with capitalism
You do know Keynesian economics is a thing right?

2019-02-01 14:53:40 UTC  

Yes and it’s not capitalism

2019-02-01 14:53:51 UTC  

This guy thinks Pinochet was socialist

2019-02-01 14:53:58 UTC  
2019-02-01 14:53:59 UTC  

okay wait WHAT

2019-02-01 14:54:00 UTC  

Right

2019-02-01 14:54:02 UTC  

It reduced the market forced

2019-02-01 14:54:09 UTC  

I think I remember Sid. He's a retard.

2019-02-01 14:54:10 UTC  

@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ According to your retarded logic he was

2019-02-01 14:54:11 UTC  

So was Adam smith a capitalist?

2019-02-01 14:54:15 UTC  

woah woah

2019-02-01 14:54:19 UTC  

There’s too many people@here