Message from @💀Fury 6💀
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What about freedom from rapists? To have this you need a mechanism for killing/deterring them
depends how you read it. I don't get slave morality from Buddhism
Lol
@snakeeater stop doing thick libertarianism
it's retarded
it just ends with socialism
The libertarian concept of freedom is property rights, I'm not a Libertarian btw
>everyone needs a gun provided by the state to defend themselves
You are only free from rapists because you live in a state that enforces that. That "rule" does not extend past it's enforement
yes
on a biological level
you will endure what you must
there is no freedom except what is purchased
Freedom from ______. So with no potential oppressors or assailants is freedom even real? Or can it only exist with the potential for harm?
purchased in the sense that you have a monopoly on force
Seeing as how the state will never give up power
the natural state of post-agricultural life is statism
as a result of the centralization of force
"is freedom even real"
only in the sense that it's some abstraction people enforce
freedom is privileges purchased by a monopoly on violence
yes
abstract in the sense it doesn't exist
it's just an idea
I do, because it is an important concept
it has no bearing upon life beyond that people believe in it
"Freedom from x" only exists as an abstract
It's you forcing your hubristic beliefs on nature
Yeah and almost everything in society is based around those type of beliefs. And yes it is somewhat of a circular fallacy. But does that mean that it is not a healthy construct for the masses?
he's right you know
You cannot accept what is
just like crimes are arbitrarily defined
there is no crime against humanity
rape was a normal occurrence for millions of years
in every biological organism
I would not ever use *freedom from x*
As a kind of freedom
sure you could get reprecussions
but in of itself it wasn't a crime
"is society a healthy construct"
If we are talking biologically, fuck no
society is not a construct though