Message from @snakeeater
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until it was
Well, it depends on your definition of freedom
Freedoms and rights overlap
depends if you wanna go thick libertarianism or thin libertarianism definition of freedom or death cult buddhism freedom
It's talking about the same core liberal beliefs
thick libertarianism = healthcare is required to be an individual with agency
Anarchy is freedom from a state's coercion, but now you're vulnerable to coercion from all the predators the state coercion deterred/killed
thin libertarianism = nothing can be given but also don't take anything away if it doesn't violate NAP
Yeah but a freedom is a freedom even if it isn't inherent.
buddhist death cult freedom = life is materialistic in of itself
thus freedom is materialistic
"freedom is a freedom"
woah
Obviously the buddhist slave morality is shit
What about freedom from rapists? To have this you need a mechanism for killing/deterring them
depends how you read it. I don't get slave morality from Buddhism
Lol
@snakeeater stop doing thick libertarianism
it's retarded
it just ends with socialism
>everyone needs a gun provided by the state to defend themselves
You are only free from rapists because you live in a state that enforces that. That "rule" does not extend past it's enforement
yes
on a biological level
you will endure what you must
there is no freedom except what is purchased
Freedom from ______. So with no potential oppressors or assailants is freedom even real? Or can it only exist with the potential for harm?
purchased in the sense that you have a monopoly on force
Seeing as how the state will never give up power
the natural state of post-agricultural life is statism
as a result of the centralization of force
"is freedom even real"
only in the sense that it's some abstraction people enforce
freedom is privileges purchased by a monopoly on violence
You love the word "abstract". Lol
yes
abstract in the sense it doesn't exist
it's just an idea
I do, because it is an important concept
it has no bearing upon life beyond that people believe in it
"Freedom from x" only exists as an abstract