freedoms ensured by the state are not freedoms at all but temporary privileges

Perhaps.

There are certain freedoms we just expected in certain cultures

that generally weren't taken

like english common law

I think you mean rights

until it was

Well, it depends on your definition of freedom

Freedoms and rights overlap

depends if you wanna go thick libertarianism or thin libertarianism definition of freedom or death cult buddhism freedom

It's talking about the same core liberal beliefs

thick libertarianism = healthcare is required to be an individual with agency

Anarchy is freedom from a state's coercion, but now you're vulnerable to coercion from all the predators the state coercion deterred/killed

thin libertarianism = nothing can be given but also don't take anything away if it doesn't violate NAP

Yeah but a freedom is a freedom even if it isn't inherent.

buddhist death cult freedom = life is materialistic in of itself

thus freedom is materialistic

"freedom is a freedom"

woah

Obviously the buddhist slave morality is shit

What about freedom from rapists? To have this you need a mechanism for killing/deterring them

depends how you read it. I don't get slave morality from Buddhism

Lol

@snakeeater stop doing thick libertarianism

it's retarded

it just ends with socialism

The libertarian concept of freedom is property rights, I'm not a Libertarian btw

>everyone needs a gun provided by the state to defend themselves

You are only free from rapists because you live in a state that enforces that. That "rule" does not extend past it's enforement

yes

on a biological level

you will endure what you must

there is no freedom except what is purchased

Freedom from ______. So with no potential oppressors or assailants is freedom even real? Or can it only exist with the potential for harm?

purchased in the sense that you have a monopoly on force

Seeing as how the state will never give up power

the natural state of post-agricultural life is statism

as a result of the centralization of force

"is freedom even real"

only in the sense that it's some abstraction people enforce

freedom is privileges purchased by a monopoly on violence

You love the word "abstract". Lol