Also "all men are created equal" is simply an expression of rejecting familial inheritance of power. Too often England, Britain, and indeed all Europe, had terrible leaders because of their obsession with hereditary monarchy.

Prove it then @Deleted User

The British also only temporarily stopped westward expansion

Prove what?

@Deleted User prove they rebelled over christianity

Also be in temporarily or not, the fact that the British banned westward expansion despite the colonists fighting a war for almost a decade for the express purpose of desiring westward expansion showed that at best the King was a traitor.

Also, the British system now is pretty much just as cucked as the American one, not more.

New York flag during the American Revolution

@Deleted User you ever heard of ontario?

It was colonized around the same time as the american revolution.

Father vs son confrontation be like

Anglo vs murican

Okay? Ontario Didn't join the rebellion, nor was Ontario a western territory, but a northern one, it was also not acquired from the Indians, but from the French.

@Deleted User so what? It was land for the americans to live on!

That was the point of it.

Bruh moment

No it wasn't

It was already settled land

Indians were not settled peoples

Also Indians aren't white

No, whites were moving in at the time.

Also the Ohio River Valley was promised, not some snowy shithole

@Deleted User if Britain and the US both have fascist governments in the modern era, why not unite. It would be beneficial for both parties.

Ontario doesn't snow much more than the US

Well done @The Desert Fox V, you just advanced to level 10!

Because we've had a long history as independent entities...

I mean maybe if fascism came around in the 1780s right after the American Revolution or something you might have a point but it is a little to late for that now

oh god

it would create oceania

lmao

>implying the states in 1984 were fascist

They were just generically totalitarian

None had any real aspects of fascism

They weren't even nationalistic, it was just a cult of personality around Big Brother

I'll discuss more later.

Okay

I read the symposium, by many considered the main work by plato, it literally is a conversation about love by the intellectuals of his era. Both in Italian and ancient Greek. Now I asked the question to you too, what did you read by plato? Also at least be consistent in your claims, don't compliment me 2 days before for then say I know nothing about ancient Greece "as expected"

well not that you don't know but you completely misunderstand the texts and what plato and the other ancient philosophers said on the 'same sex relationships'

nowadays it's automatically viewed/referred to sexual perversions

which was not true in the ancient times

in fact I don't even belief they had a concept of 'sexuality' in the ancient times like we do today