I will look more into it

@The Desert Fox V k thanks

You're welcome.

@anthr0pos the websites where I saw it explained that that guy spoke about Codreanu and the Iron Guard

And kinda about communism and second world war

From what I understood he doesn't explain in the detail but about the iron guard definetely looks like something like it

Maybe it continues after that and also explains WW2 and Communism, not in that part though

Not sure what the deal is with the day of the Lord in march

See this if you can read or translate it, it talks about it in romanian.

Cool

He defines it as an apparition though, rather than a profecy

Yes

@Deleted User A nation shouldn't care about non-citizens.

That's my statement.

Allright, lets go in to details on the subjects here.

What kind of a nation?
What qualifies as citizen?

I'd say citizenship qualifies you as a citizen

Not that difficult now is it

I define a nation as a group of people who share kinship, customs and language and a citizen as anyone who has the corresponding 3

Countries have different requirements for citizenry

@Traveler

Citizenship =/= nationhood

@The Desert Fox V so a homogenous nation then?

@Deleted User true, but for the purposes of this debate no

@Deleted User yes

@The Desert Fox V ok I'm going to argue from the present state from the world, not hypotheticals

@Deleted User what do you mean?

A nation has to care of non-citizens due to inernational relations and global events affect through mediums like trade and warfare

Fyi english isnt my first language and its 3am

are you Russian

@Deleted User so what if other countries don't like us (the hypothetical nation)? As long as we're strong enough to defend ourselves, a bit of dislike is fine.

@The Desert Fox V no hypothetical nation, Russia invaded Ukraine, and the eastern front is still active. It impacted trade and geopolitical decisionmaking of more than the directly involved nations of the war. Ukraine's position of military strength can be debated, but support from the around europe has aided their cause.

Well done @Deleted User, you just advanced to level 3!

Are you Russian?

@Deleted User true, but invasion is one thing and discriminating against foreigners within one's borders is another. Obviously we should only invade if we're ready, but who would go to war over a couple foreigners?

Ahem

Russia

@The Desert Fox V so you would agree then that caring of non-citizens should be done in some instances?
Im not sure who you refer to as couple of foreigners, but the Ukrainian war involves millions.

@Deleted User if it's done for the betterment of citizens then yes. In the Ukrainian war are we talking from a Russian or Ukrainian perspective?

@The Desert Fox V I'm talking of both. Socratean debate so my counter arguments have to be as unbiased as possible.

So I have convinced you that in foreign affairs there are instances where non-citizens have to be paid attention to? That would leave domestic affairs, right?

I suppose. Not specifically in foreign affairs or always in foreign affairs, just whenever it's necessary. It should be done as little as possible.