Message from @The Electric Lizard

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2019-11-01 12:17:52 UTC  

I was certain that the country would vote pro-eu in 2015

2019-11-01 12:18:00 UTC  

so I'm not confident in any predictions, inc my own

2019-11-01 12:19:42 UTC  

short of some BP popularity surge for some reason (don't see how, what could change between now and dec?) i don't see them being a huge threat

2019-11-01 12:20:11 UTC  

BP message has been pretty constant

2019-11-01 12:20:30 UTC  

they might just become a target for all the bile taking the target off other peoples shoulders

2019-11-01 12:20:48 UTC  

If the tories publish a disastrous manifesto.

2019-11-01 12:21:00 UTC  

remember how UKIP took all the hate and NF was put on platforms as the "reasonable alternative"

2019-11-01 12:21:02 UTC  

it might just be that

2019-11-01 12:21:12 UTC  

As long as Boris doesn't make too many concessions to the Remain side of his party he should win any election

2019-11-01 12:21:29 UTC  

I haven't read the deal, but from what I'm hearing it doesn't sound positive

2019-11-01 12:21:35 UTC  

The Labour Party is split with the Lib Dems much more then the Conservatives are split with the Brexit Party

2019-11-01 12:21:42 UTC  

hopefully the election will cull all of the wets

2019-11-01 12:21:46 UTC  

My dream Boris would use the election to purge the tory party.

2019-11-01 12:21:52 UTC  

But that won’t happen

2019-11-01 12:22:06 UTC  

Boris really should just go for a No Deal

2019-11-01 12:22:33 UTC  

He should

2019-11-01 12:22:38 UTC  

Straight just repeal the european treaties on first day

2019-11-01 12:23:15 UTC  

But scrapping his “great deal” would look like a sign of weakness to his opponents

2019-11-01 12:23:23 UTC  

He shouldn't

2019-11-01 12:23:29 UTC  

No deal will not win the election

2019-11-01 12:23:33 UTC  

He would gain much more support then he would lose, The only real loss would be some Conservative MP's which wouldn't matter too much since he could just stop them from standing again

2019-11-01 12:24:00 UTC  

He could lose some Conservative moderates but he would gain more from the BXP then he would lose

2019-11-01 12:24:59 UTC  

Yeah, but because of electoral math, loosing even a little to labour can be much worse than loosing more to bxp

2019-11-01 12:25:01 UTC  

We just have to wait until they launch their bid or publish their manifesto to see what the Tories would do

2019-11-01 12:25:48 UTC  

The manifesto should be good

2019-11-01 12:25:54 UTC  

We've got a fairly decent cabinet

2019-11-01 12:28:09 UTC  

Tories, "decent cabinet", <:WaitWhatArmy:590858815189024778>

2019-11-01 12:30:42 UTC  

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2019-11-01 12:30:46 UTC  

So unless Boris drops his deal, no pact is happening

2019-11-01 12:32:38 UTC  

That is the main demand preventing a pact

2019-11-01 12:34:06 UTC  

farage has been very consistent with his demand, he isn't going to change it. that just leaves boris but he has also rebuffed the offer over and over again

2019-11-01 12:34:07 UTC  

seems unlikely

2019-11-01 12:34:09 UTC  

So if the Americans want us to open up the NHS

2019-11-01 12:34:15 UTC  

and we are never going to open up the NHS

2019-11-01 12:34:40 UTC  

Then what happens to this wonderful amazing trade deal that was supposed to make up for all the losses from leaving the EU trade wise

2019-11-01 12:35:18 UTC  

theyre not the EU... theyre not going to turn down a great chance because of one avenue

2019-11-01 12:35:22 UTC  

The NHS argument is just fearmongering

2019-11-01 12:35:41 UTC  

Any party that damaged the NHS in any serious capacity would render itself unelectable in any future election

2019-11-01 12:36:11 UTC  

Labour have been using that fear of the NHS being lost for years