Message from @ManAnimal

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2019-11-01 08:52:31 UTC  

Ban them everywhere

2019-11-01 08:52:52 UTC  

no one wants to spend the money on taxes for 50 seperate gov depts, one for each state, that do the same thing

2019-11-01 08:53:11 UTC  

They don't even have the conception anymore and I think its because of how globalist in general the left is

2019-11-01 08:53:12 UTC  

we do that anyways

2019-11-01 08:53:13 UTC  

but the point is that if you do it yourself, you don't become dependant on the Federal Gov

2019-11-01 08:53:37 UTC  

Ie the left in every nation are quite similar

2019-11-01 08:53:41 UTC  

Want the same things

2019-11-01 08:53:51 UTC  

yeah, remember that the US gov used to encourage civilians to own cannons

2019-11-01 08:54:01 UTC  

so they gov could use them in time of war

2019-11-01 08:54:23 UTC  

federal regulation is important for things like agriculture, engineering, etc... some federal power is important but not excessive federal power

2019-11-01 08:54:25 UTC  

anyone that uses the 'didn't mean weapons that could kill people' is full of shit

2019-11-01 08:54:39 UTC  

an AR-15 cannot disembowl a person

2019-11-01 08:54:48 UTC  

They literally meant

2019-11-01 08:54:51 UTC  

an cannon from 1850 can

2019-11-01 08:54:59 UTC  

Whatever weapon is required to overthrow a tyrannical gov

2019-11-01 08:55:06 UTC  

Where my Abrams @?

2019-11-01 08:55:13 UTC  

that is also not really the reason

2019-11-01 08:55:40 UTC  

Yeah yeah more about if the brits return

2019-11-01 08:55:53 UTC  

if the Constitution is followed, the Federal gov can never GET to the point to oppress the States

2019-11-01 08:56:04 UTC  

@Northern Lights I agree but they didnt really account for the insane technological advancements in warfare

2019-11-01 08:56:20 UTC  

so the notion that guns are for preventing the federal gov from imposing their will is also a common fallacy

2019-11-01 08:56:24 UTC  

Yeah I've been thinking about that

2019-11-01 08:56:32 UTC  

i think they did

2019-11-01 08:57:01 UTC  

that is why the States were supposed to have the majority of control over their own affairs

2019-11-01 08:57:04 UTC  

personalised nuclear device when

2019-11-01 08:57:10 UTC  

regardless of tech advances

2019-11-01 08:57:11 UTC  

not soon enough <:why:462286147473637407>

2019-11-01 08:57:15 UTC  

Maybe some sort of system where its scaled up to militias so they can own stuff rather then the individuals because I see the argument against the private ownership of anti air missiles for example

2019-11-01 08:57:30 UTC  

i don't

2019-11-01 08:58:16 UTC  

understand that conceding to the notion that individuals aren't responsible enough to control various tech IS the reason we are in this mess

2019-11-01 08:58:26 UTC  

private ownership of tactical nukes

2019-11-01 08:58:31 UTC  

The catch 22 is

2019-11-01 08:58:32 UTC  

groups of people are even LESS responsible

2019-11-01 08:58:51 UTC  

There is an increase in violence

2019-11-01 08:58:54 UTC  

and eventually, in order to keep people from owning person nukes, the State WILL have to become totalitarian

2019-11-01 08:58:57 UTC  

Kids didn't used to shoot schools up

2019-11-01 08:59:09 UTC  

imagine the State trying to control 3d printer tech?

2019-11-01 08:59:12 UTC  

impossible

2019-11-01 08:59:18 UTC  

unless nazi germany

2019-11-01 08:59:42 UTC  

Maybe

2019-11-01 08:59:46 UTC  

and eventually, it will become possible for any idiot to produce a weapon