Message from @ETBrooD

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2019-10-21 22:52:04 UTC  

To quote Ayn Rand if you value others too much you will essentially become a sacrificial object

2019-10-21 22:52:04 UTC  

@SPOOKY Phil, Ruler of Heck Cease the copypasta's in the politics channels.

2019-10-21 22:52:08 UTC  

I'm talking to Lizard

2019-10-21 22:52:19 UTC  

Can't talk to two people at once, sorry

2019-10-21 22:52:22 UTC  

@Comando Alright, will do 👌🏻

2019-10-21 22:52:29 UTC  

its nps, getting a beer

2019-10-21 22:52:55 UTC  

Ayn Rand was wrong though, she thought selfishness creates the best... world, or whatever

2019-10-21 22:53:14 UTC  

She's not entirely wrong, but she was partially wrong, because she thought it's a universal and complete truth

2019-10-21 22:53:40 UTC  

I agree with her on morality because she supported the base form of morality

2019-10-21 22:53:58 UTC  

Which is only valuing yourself, Your Family and those that keep both of those things alive

2019-10-21 22:54:13 UTC  

The base form of morality that is natural

2019-10-21 22:54:22 UTC  

That's a very small circle for ethics

2019-10-21 22:54:55 UTC  

I never said Nihilism was a popular philosophy of ethics, But i think it is the most reasonable

2019-10-21 22:54:59 UTC  

Ayn Rand stated very clearly that she does not condone things like murder, theft etc.

2019-10-21 22:55:08 UTC  

I don't either

2019-10-21 22:55:10 UTC  

She does not only value those you mentioned

2019-10-21 22:55:16 UTC  

Just not because of morality

2019-10-21 22:55:22 UTC  

I oppose it because it damages society

2019-10-21 22:55:32 UTC  

Ayn Rand plants the whole of society in her circle of ethics

2019-10-21 22:55:39 UTC  

I oppose it due to realism of what keeps society going not because of any moral reason

2019-10-21 22:55:49 UTC  

I don't know if you're aware of the interviews she gave that add insight into her philosophy

2019-10-21 22:55:54 UTC  

I don't agree with her completely

2019-10-21 22:56:03 UTC  

Only partly

2019-10-21 22:56:13 UTC  

I know she wasn't exactly a Nihilist

2019-10-21 22:56:23 UTC  

She wasn't far off though

2019-10-21 22:56:32 UTC  

But if you disagree with the outer circles of Ayn Rand's ethics, then you're hardly in support of her philosophy

2019-10-21 22:56:54 UTC  

I only partially support it

2019-10-21 22:57:12 UTC  

I support the idea of embracing selfishness for example

2019-10-21 22:57:36 UTC  

Ayn Rand had views that contradict her views on selfishness

2019-10-21 22:58:44 UTC  

You'll find this often with philosophers, that they don't have a complete understanding of their own views, so they have to refine them over time, and often radically change some aspects

2019-10-21 22:59:44 UTC  

Do you agree that -isms are dangerous?

2019-10-21 23:00:11 UTC  

What do you mean by -isms?

2019-10-21 23:00:35 UTC  

Nationalism, collectivism, socialism, capitalism, etc. etc.

2019-10-21 23:00:39 UTC  

objectivism

2019-10-21 23:00:39 UTC  

famanism?

2019-10-21 23:00:43 UTC  

fanaticism

2019-10-21 23:00:45 UTC  

It depends on what one

2019-10-21 23:00:47 UTC  

femenism*

2019-10-21 23:00:53 UTC  

Capitalism to an extent

2019-10-21 23:01:01 UTC  

An -ism is the extreme of an idea

2019-10-21 23:01:32 UTC  

I don't think being extreme is really that dangerous if that's what your asking