Message from @Snake

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2019-10-21 23:12:25 UTC  

Since morals should be decided individually anyway, it doesn't really matter what other people think, only the mother should have a say in that

2019-10-21 23:13:05 UTC  

thats ok, as long as the father has a choice in paying for it

2019-10-21 23:13:20 UTC  

Yo I really hate tim pool I think 🤔

2019-10-21 23:13:33 UTC  

I Watched his sam seder debate and he came off real childish

2019-10-21 23:14:45 UTC  

He's young

2019-10-21 23:14:53 UTC  

He has a right to be dumb on some things

2019-10-21 23:15:28 UTC  

night mofos, hope no one burgles you or tries to abort your missus

2019-10-21 23:17:45 UTC  

I'm watching the Tim vs Seder clip, can someone explain to me what the selfown is?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rdj0ngdMwY

2019-10-21 23:31:49 UTC  

Why does that guy look like a Jew?

2019-10-22 00:06:11 UTC  

@ETBrooD dude literally anyone who watches or is a fan of Sam Seder are fucking retarded

2019-10-22 00:06:18 UTC  

Sam Seder is fucking retarded

2019-10-22 00:11:00 UTC  

Tim *almost redpilled* pool

2019-10-22 00:13:51 UTC  

Yeah I watched it, and all I can think of is that:

2019-10-22 00:14:28 UTC  

Basically there is a underlying logic, re watch the video from the point of view that trump is currently putting people in concentration camps right now as we talk @ETBrooD

2019-10-22 00:15:19 UTC  

The best I can explain it is Tim starts out by saying there is rules against concentration camps, people won’t vote for it, but then say “but people voted for trump”

2019-10-22 00:15:37 UTC  

The only way that makes since is if you believe trump is putting people in concentration camps

2019-10-22 00:16:45 UTC  

So basically you have to put yourself in a shit lib mindset

2019-10-22 00:20:41 UTC  

But maybe Tim agreed that trump was doing that earlier in the debate but clearly didn’t believe it deep down if he fucked up like that

2019-10-22 00:20:56 UTC  

But I didn’t watch that debate, I could care less

2019-10-22 00:33:34 UTC  

I watched the full interview, Tim never said trump built/putting people in concentration camp. This clip is classic example of 'taking things out of the context'.

2019-10-22 01:31:26 UTC  

That or this is a classic example of the left projecting their thoughts and beliefs into the conversation when it never happened

2019-10-22 09:20:06 UTC  

@Python I've rewatched the clip multiple times now, and I'm still confused after your explanation lol
Premise: "I'm not having to kill anybody"
Tim's rebuttal:
1) If you vote for *someone* who's going to build a concentration camp, then you are [having to kill people]
2) The concentration camp only gets built if enough people like you believe they should support *this person* [inaudible, 'in fear'?]
[Response to that: it gets built regardless]
3) Not true, we have rules for that
[then they have a short exchange about why so many people surprisingly voted for Trump, disgruntled voters, spiteful Bernie voters. 'They can't take our vote for granted'; and 'Do you think that lesson was learned ?' (that people's vote shouldn't be taken for granted) Tim: 'no way!']
4) But they voted for *Trump*

2019-10-22 09:23:16 UTC  

OHHHH I GET IT

2019-10-22 09:23:21 UTC  

They think concentration camp = death camp

2019-10-22 09:23:46 UTC  

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2019-10-22 09:23:55 UTC  

Oh but

2019-10-22 09:23:58 UTC  

Tim didn't dispute that part

2019-10-22 09:24:22 UTC  

His response was that conc camps only get built if blabla, not that they're not the same as death camps

2019-10-22 09:24:36 UTC  

So Tim is guilty of poor argumentation

2019-10-22 09:24:54 UTC  

Yeah I know what happened there

2019-10-22 09:26:27 UTC  

It's a classic brain fail, where you don't state your position about [term] fully and clearly, and then as the debating partner keeps using the term in a way that you wouldn't, your brain simply goes with it and also starts using it the same way, until you say something that you don't actually believe because you originally didn't plan to use the term that way

2019-10-22 09:27:20 UTC  

That happens a lot when people talk about things they don't fully comprehend, like Tim probably doesn't fully comprehend the meaning of different types of camps

2019-10-22 09:27:42 UTC  

Or how his debating partner uses it

2019-10-22 09:28:35 UTC  

Can certainly be considered a selfown yeah, and it's exactly why I shy away from unwritten debate

2019-10-22 09:29:45 UTC  

Btw that's also the same thing that happens with the term "racist"

2019-10-22 09:30:28 UTC  

Concentration camps, racism, when terms aren't clearly defined prior to a debate, then it's very easy for you to have a brain fail and say something you didn't intend to

2019-10-22 09:30:58 UTC  

And even if they are clearly defined, if you're not used to using them with that definition, then it puts you at a disadvantage