Message from @Dubdogelmo

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2019-10-22 17:15:35 UTC  

2 years for a sub and 3 for a carrier

2019-10-22 17:15:42 UTC  

"I believe the downtime for a mid-life refueling is a couple years"

2019-10-22 17:15:43 UTC  

😉

2019-10-22 17:15:46 UTC  

But that doesn't happen in the middle of military operation.

2019-10-22 17:15:50 UTC  

But we still extend?

2019-10-22 17:16:00 UTC  

I would imagine so

2019-10-22 17:16:00 UTC  

True, but it could happen before those operations occur

2019-10-22 17:16:11 UTC  

He needs opposition support for a GE

2019-10-22 17:16:16 UTC  

The ship could be in drydock during the start of the conflict

2019-10-22 17:16:23 UTC  

And the normally scheduled one is still years away

2019-10-22 17:16:35 UTC  

I don't see how he'll get a GE

2019-10-22 17:16:36 UTC  

You can plan the refuelling long ahead, and you can have plenty reserves to refuel years later if you absolutely need it now.

2019-10-22 17:16:41 UTC  

He won't @Hopix

2019-10-22 17:16:49 UTC  

That assumes you know when the conflict will start @leavethisbotnet

2019-10-22 17:17:11 UTC  

He would have to get a decent amount of opposition MP's to support him

2019-10-22 17:17:30 UTC  

It could happen after the 31st

2019-10-22 17:17:37 UTC  

The SNP already support a GE

2019-10-22 17:17:39 UTC  

The point is that the refuelling is controllable and outside of the operations area.

2019-10-22 17:18:12 UTC  

Labour could, possibly if Corbyn decides to follow his pledge to support a GE once the extension has been agreed

2019-10-22 17:18:19 UTC  

non-nuclear, chances are you're gonna have to stop to refuel mid operations

2019-10-22 17:18:26 UTC  

Diesel carriers also piss off enviromentalists so that is a plus

2019-10-22 17:18:34 UTC  

I don't think the Lib Dems or Greens will

2019-10-22 17:18:41 UTC  

You don't have to stop, the operation can continue while refuling occurs @leavethisbotnet

2019-10-22 17:18:45 UTC  

As it did in the Falklands conflict

2019-10-22 17:18:46 UTC  

Actually the Lib Dems could

2019-10-22 17:18:49 UTC  

nuclear refueling is strategic concern, whereas oil refuelling is tactical and operational concern

2019-10-22 17:18:57 UTC  

They stand to gain quite a lot of seats in a GE

2019-10-22 17:19:31 UTC  

US with its industrial capacity can deal with the strategic concern easier than UK

2019-10-22 17:19:42 UTC  

The refueling and supply process can occur at any time and does not significantly hinder the operations of the task force

2019-10-22 17:19:47 UTC  

The reason that US has exclusively nuclear is they have to think of a way to spend the ridiculous budget the military gets

2019-10-22 17:19:48 UTC  

True, since they have 11 carriers <:pot_of_kek:544849795433496586>

2019-10-22 17:19:53 UTC  

But, most countries aren't America

2019-10-22 17:20:22 UTC  

Of course, it's a balancing act. For UK, non nuclear was the right choice.

2019-10-22 17:20:36 UTC  

I think the F-35B was as well

2019-10-22 17:20:47 UTC  

@Hopix There's running speculation that they deliberately changed the font to Comic Sans for hate Tweets

2019-10-22 17:21:00 UTC  

Rather than putting in a catapult and buying C's

2019-10-22 17:21:36 UTC  

F-35 is one giant mistake altogether.

2019-10-22 17:21:57 UTC  

I think the MOW is sensible to constrain their ambitions for now

2019-10-22 17:21:57 UTC  

Well, it's better than the harriers we were operating

2019-10-22 17:22:08 UTC  

And it's the best on the market that meets our requirements

2019-10-22 17:22:34 UTC  

Though, I'd love to see a UK designed aircraft to go on them