Message from @RMS_Gigantic

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2019-10-22 17:25:16 UTC  

Well, the UK is developing its own new multirole aircraft

2019-10-22 17:25:18 UTC  

War Plan Red notes that the only things the UK home islands were self-sufficient in in the 1930's were fish, coal, iron, and some vegetables. Everything else required imports from the empire or abroad, and I don't think that situation has changed much

2019-10-22 17:25:20 UTC  

The Tempest program

2019-10-22 17:25:21 UTC  

Turkey pretty much bankrupted themselves trying to design their own fighter jet

2019-10-22 17:26:22 UTC  

But the UK has a pretty good arms industry atm

2019-10-22 17:26:32 UTC  

except the UK, I guess, who in their infinite wisdom built a CV that couldn't be used with anything other than F-35

2019-10-22 17:26:51 UTC  

before it turned out how shit F-35 is

2019-10-22 17:27:03 UTC  

A

2019-10-22 17:27:05 UTC  

FUCKING

2019-10-22 17:27:06 UTC  

RAMP

2019-10-22 17:27:17 UTC  

Ramps are maximum aesthetic

2019-10-22 17:27:27 UTC  

None of this flat yankee doodle shite

2019-10-22 17:27:30 UTC  

It makes sense, if lockheed didn't fuck up so massively

2019-10-22 17:27:53 UTC  
2019-10-22 17:28:04 UTC  

You got me there

2019-10-22 17:29:25 UTC  

Or just get some swordfishes, surely Queen Elizabeth class can support those (:

2019-10-22 17:29:53 UTC  

Too bad the QE doesn't have the even flight deck or the steam catapults to use them properly

2019-10-22 17:30:03 UTC  

As for the fates of the British carriers with those traits,

2019-10-22 17:30:07 UTC  

```Completed: 4
Scrapped: 4```

2019-10-22 17:30:18 UTC  

```Fate: Sold for scrap in 1955
Status: Scrapped```

2019-10-22 17:31:15 UTC  

```Completed: 2
Scrapped: 2```

2019-10-22 17:31:46 UTC  

Nah, they could just take of backwards.

2019-10-22 17:32:10 UTC  

Not enough headwind

2019-10-22 17:32:14 UTC  

```Fate: Scrapped 1978```

2019-10-22 17:32:29 UTC  

It's a fucking biplane, how much headwind do you need?

2019-10-22 17:32:59 UTC  

I suggest the Sopwith Camel as a low cost alternative

2019-10-22 17:33:03 UTC  

Anything positive, which isn't what you'll get if you keep moving the ship forward but take off backwards. ```Fate: Scrapped 1980```

2019-10-22 17:33:26 UTC  

```Planned: 4
Cancelled: 4```

2019-10-22 17:33:40 UTC  

```Planned: 2
Cancelled: 2```

2019-10-22 17:33:55 UTC  

```Completed: 3
Scrapped: 3```

2019-10-22 17:33:58 UTC  

Better scrapped than blown up, like most US non-Essex main battle WW2 carriers

2019-10-22 17:34:34 UTC  

At least that's a warrior's death. Enterprise got scrapped, but other than that we bothered to actually save ships.

2019-10-22 17:35:04 UTC  

Or, in the case of USS Constitution, keep it in active commission in the US Navy and keep the ship sailing under her own power 200+ years later

2019-10-22 17:35:12 UTC  

Somehow I don't think the military planners are of the same opinion

2019-10-22 17:35:38 UTC  

as far as warrior's death is concerned

2019-10-22 17:35:46 UTC  

They actually do, because if you keep ships as museums, there exists a possibility to return them from the mothball

2019-10-22 17:36:08 UTC  

Anyway, contrast USS Constitution with HMS Victory, the latter of which looks like the ship's on fucking life support: https://www.nmrn.org.uk/sites/default/files/styles/event-image-large/public/field/image/how_adjustable_steel_props_will_look_on_hms_victory_credit_nmrn_2.png?itok=A074yAfu

2019-10-22 17:37:06 UTC  

I was referring to the "warrior's death"

2019-10-22 17:37:38 UTC  

not that armoured carriers make sense nowadays....

2019-10-22 17:37:41 UTC  

That idea of preferring a ship be sunk than scrapped dates back nearly 200 years on this side of the Atlantic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Ironsides_(poem)

2019-10-22 17:42:20 UTC  

American "history" lmao