Message from @RMS_Gigantic
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Too bad the QE doesn't have the even flight deck or the steam catapults to use them properly
As for the fates of the British carriers with those traits,
```Completed: 4
Scrapped: 4```
```Fate: Sold for scrap in 1955
Status: Scrapped```
```Completed: 2
Scrapped: 2```
Nah, they could just take of backwards.
Not enough headwind
```Fate: Scrapped 1978```
It's a fucking biplane, how much headwind do you need?
I suggest the Sopwith Camel as a low cost alternative
Anything positive, which isn't what you'll get if you keep moving the ship forward but take off backwards. ```Fate: Scrapped 1980```
```Planned: 4
Cancelled: 4```
```Planned: 2
Cancelled: 2```
```Completed: 3
Scrapped: 3```
Better scrapped than blown up, like most US non-Essex main battle WW2 carriers
At least that's a warrior's death. Enterprise got scrapped, but other than that we bothered to actually save ships.
Or, in the case of USS Constitution, keep it in active commission in the US Navy and keep the ship sailing under her own power 200+ years later
Somehow I don't think the military planners are of the same opinion
as far as warrior's death is concerned
They actually do, because if you keep ships as museums, there exists a possibility to return them from the mothball
Anyway, contrast USS Constitution with HMS Victory, the latter of which looks like the ship's on fucking life support: https://www.nmrn.org.uk/sites/default/files/styles/event-image-large/public/field/image/how_adjustable_steel_props_will_look_on_hms_victory_credit_nmrn_2.png?itok=A074yAfu
I was referring to the "warrior's death"
not that armoured carriers make sense nowadays....
That idea of preferring a ship be sunk than scrapped dates back nearly 200 years on this side of the Atlantic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Ironsides_(poem)
American "history" lmao
No such thing
He says as the UK scraps would-be historical sites, while the Old Statehouse in Boston still stands from the days of the Boston Massacre
I love how Yanks get so proud of the frigates like the USS constitution when their navy was literally just those 3 frigates
6, though the real thing to be proud of is the 33-0 battle record on Connie
HMS Shannon hoves into view
Yeah the constitution was a really good design, but not good enough to hold a candle to the RN of the time
It was successful enough to outrun what it couldn't outgun or outgun what it couldn't outrun, and indeed as shown by the 57-hour chase involving 5 smaller Royal Navy ships, they could even outrun ships that were SUPPOSED to be able to outrun them
Basically the interwar UK battlecruiser doctrine
Yeah it was a fine ship, but there is a mystique around those ships that aint really justified
They DID pull experimental designs that proved to work, like the diagonal braces in the hull
e.g a really well managed RN frigate like the Shannon managed to beat the USS Chesapeake
Otherwise, they didn't, and weren't designed to, compete with ships of the line
hence their speed
and razees were shown to handle them well
They only did so well because the cream of the RN were in Europe dealing with Napoleon
presumably being manned by the sailors the UK had to impress into service due to lack of domestic manpower