Message from @RMS_Gigantic

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2019-10-22 17:23:33 UTC  

That's the plan

2019-10-22 17:23:49 UTC  

War Plan Red has noted how extremely dependent the UK is on areas beyond the home islands

2019-10-22 17:23:59 UTC  

Reassert the queen's claims to the duchies of Aquitane and Normandy

2019-10-22 17:24:10 UTC  

Before a study conducted during WWII, UK war planning evidently called for capitulation in the event that the home islands were blockaded

2019-10-22 17:24:11 UTC  

Well, the hope was economies of scale would lower the cost of the aircraft @leavethisbotnet

2019-10-22 17:24:15 UTC  

Which to an extent is happening

2019-10-22 17:24:28 UTC  

When you look at origional unit costs compared to today

2019-10-22 17:24:44 UTC  

But there were too many requirements from the US military on the aircraft

2019-10-22 17:24:49 UTC  

Developing our own planes would be stupidly expensive

2019-10-22 17:24:51 UTC  

It's *too* multirole.

2019-10-22 17:24:53 UTC  

The only countries that are buying F-35 are those that want to earn US good boy points.

2019-10-22 17:24:55 UTC  

Sadly true @Dubdogelmo

2019-10-22 17:25:16 UTC  

Well, the UK is developing its own new multirole aircraft

2019-10-22 17:25:18 UTC  

War Plan Red notes that the only things the UK home islands were self-sufficient in in the 1930's were fish, coal, iron, and some vegetables. Everything else required imports from the empire or abroad, and I don't think that situation has changed much

2019-10-22 17:25:20 UTC  

The Tempest program

2019-10-22 17:25:21 UTC  

Turkey pretty much bankrupted themselves trying to design their own fighter jet

2019-10-22 17:26:22 UTC  

But the UK has a pretty good arms industry atm

2019-10-22 17:26:32 UTC  

except the UK, I guess, who in their infinite wisdom built a CV that couldn't be used with anything other than F-35

2019-10-22 17:26:51 UTC  

before it turned out how shit F-35 is

2019-10-22 17:27:03 UTC  

A

2019-10-22 17:27:05 UTC  

FUCKING

2019-10-22 17:27:06 UTC  

RAMP

2019-10-22 17:27:17 UTC  

Ramps are maximum aesthetic

2019-10-22 17:27:27 UTC  

None of this flat yankee doodle shite

2019-10-22 17:27:30 UTC  

It makes sense, if lockheed didn't fuck up so massively

2019-10-22 17:27:53 UTC  
2019-10-22 17:28:04 UTC  

You got me there

2019-10-22 17:29:25 UTC  

Or just get some swordfishes, surely Queen Elizabeth class can support those (:

2019-10-22 17:29:53 UTC  

Too bad the QE doesn't have the even flight deck or the steam catapults to use them properly

2019-10-22 17:30:03 UTC  

As for the fates of the British carriers with those traits,

2019-10-22 17:30:07 UTC  

```Completed: 4
Scrapped: 4```

2019-10-22 17:30:18 UTC  

```Fate: Sold for scrap in 1955
Status: Scrapped```

2019-10-22 17:31:15 UTC  

```Completed: 2
Scrapped: 2```

2019-10-22 17:31:46 UTC  

Nah, they could just take of backwards.

2019-10-22 17:32:10 UTC  

Not enough headwind

2019-10-22 17:32:14 UTC  

```Fate: Scrapped 1978```

2019-10-22 17:32:29 UTC  

It's a fucking biplane, how much headwind do you need?

2019-10-22 17:32:59 UTC  

I suggest the Sopwith Camel as a low cost alternative

2019-10-22 17:33:03 UTC  

Anything positive, which isn't what you'll get if you keep moving the ship forward but take off backwards. ```Fate: Scrapped 1980```

2019-10-22 17:33:26 UTC  

```Planned: 4
Cancelled: 4```

2019-10-22 17:33:40 UTC  

```Planned: 2
Cancelled: 2```