Message from @Doomed world

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2019-09-29 00:02:49 UTC  

How?

2019-09-29 00:02:50 UTC  

"Capable of stirring up prejudice."

2019-09-29 00:02:55 UTC  

The bible isnt evidence

2019-09-29 00:02:57 UTC  

The context

2019-09-29 00:03:00 UTC  

I have defamed cain

2019-09-29 00:03:21 UTC  

moses killed the midianites

2019-09-29 00:03:31 UTC  

You're not holding a seminar, claiming to be an "expert" on the religion, where the wording of the title of said seminar implies fact.

2019-09-29 00:03:40 UTC  

That's the difference

2019-09-29 00:04:00 UTC  

Right so if I held a seminar, as an expert, say a priest.

2019-09-29 00:04:07 UTC  

its not actually illegal to misrepresent history in an essay or lesson

2019-09-29 00:04:21 UTC  

If you lied / defamed someone that would be against the law. Yes.

2019-09-29 00:04:22 UTC  

The seminar is typical religious BS like "God is truth" or something

2019-09-29 00:04:29 UTC  

and then read from the bible

2019-09-29 00:04:36 UTC  

Stating that Cain did in fact kill abel

2019-09-29 00:04:41 UTC  

Lying isn't against the law.

2019-09-29 00:04:45 UTC  

I can now be arrested for preaching the religion

2019-09-29 00:04:58 UTC  

Defamation is.

2019-09-29 00:05:26 UTC  

defamation of a historical religious figure?

2019-09-29 00:05:29 UTC  

Again, read for it yourself

2019-09-29 00:05:30 UTC  
2019-09-29 00:05:32 UTC  

but Muhammad is not pressing charge

2019-09-29 00:05:35 UTC  

Should imams be arrested for preaching Muhammed had sex with kids?

2019-09-29 00:05:43 UTC  

When put in the context it was in, yes. @system11

2019-09-29 00:05:47 UTC  

Which you can read in there.

2019-09-29 00:05:49 UTC  

They are creating blasphemy laws

2019-09-29 00:05:56 UTC  

and not even that

2019-09-29 00:05:59 UTC  

Under very specific conditions?

2019-09-29 00:05:59 UTC  

Sure.

2019-09-29 00:06:01 UTC  

laws against even preaching

2019-09-29 00:06:08 UTC  

Conditions hardly anyone will meet, ever?

2019-09-29 00:06:09 UTC  

Sure.

2019-09-29 00:06:43 UTC  

one person meeting the condition for "Defaming" a prophet of a religion is too much

2019-09-29 00:07:02 UTC  

"Under common law, to constitute defamation, a claim must generally be false" If it was a UK Court, not the ECHR I'd argue that the onus would be on the court to prove the claim to be false, not that the claim did not have enough proof. But considering it is in Europe, good luck getting a fair trial on that.

2019-09-29 00:07:06 UTC  

Under the conditions in which it happened, it was fine.

2019-09-29 00:07:26 UTC  

That is another thing slen

2019-09-29 00:07:47 UTC  

"As for the context of the impugned statements, the seminars had been widely advertised to the public on the Internet and via leaflets, sent out by the head of the right-wing Freedom Party, addressing them especially to young voters and praising them as “top seminars” in the framework of a “free education package”. The title of the seminar had given the – in hindsight misleading – impression that it would include objective information on Islam."

2019-09-29 00:07:52 UTC  

The legal system of the UK and the USA is simply better on the "Innocent until proven guilty" front.

2019-09-29 00:08:34 UTC  

"The applicant had described herself as an expert in the field of Islamic doctrine, already having held seminars of that kind for a while, thus she had to have been aware that her statements were partly based on untrue facts and apt to arouse (justified) indignation in others."

2019-09-29 00:08:34 UTC  

You cannot provide objective seminars on things in magical religion books

2019-09-29 00:09:02 UTC  

ljust point at the grooming gangs, they believe he was a pedo enough to try and imitate him

2019-09-29 00:09:03 UTC  

You can provide the studies of said books in the most well understood way.