Message from @system11

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2019-09-29 00:07:52 UTC  

The legal system of the UK and the USA is simply better on the "Innocent until proven guilty" front.

2019-09-29 00:08:34 UTC  

"The applicant had described herself as an expert in the field of Islamic doctrine, already having held seminars of that kind for a while, thus she had to have been aware that her statements were partly based on untrue facts and apt to arouse (justified) indignation in others."

2019-09-29 00:08:34 UTC  

You cannot provide objective seminars on things in magical religion books

2019-09-29 00:09:02 UTC  

ljust point at the grooming gangs, they believe he was a pedo enough to try and imitate him

2019-09-29 00:09:03 UTC  

You can provide the studies of said books in the most well understood way.

2019-09-29 00:09:14 UTC  

You can

2019-09-29 00:09:19 UTC  

She didn't.

2019-09-29 00:09:21 UTC  

🙂

2019-09-29 00:09:26 UTC  

and it is understood...that mohammed was a pedo

2019-09-29 00:09:35 UTC  

Yet she couldn't prove that claim

2019-09-29 00:09:36 UTC  

Well, she did. Its just the Court disagreed.

2019-09-29 00:09:47 UTC  

Understood does not mean objective.

2019-09-29 00:10:14 UTC  

You see thats the difference, she had to prove she was innocent.

In places that actually have sensible legal systems, they would had to prove she was wrong.

2019-09-29 00:10:15 UTC  

just dont object to islam and you're fine, stay in your place peasant

2019-09-29 00:10:28 UTC  

Shouldn't have made false claims @Joshu

2019-09-29 00:10:30 UTC  

Simple.

2019-09-29 00:10:39 UTC  

They wernt false though were they?

2019-09-29 00:10:47 UTC  

She just didnt provide the evidence...or enough of it

2019-09-29 00:10:48 UTC  

It relies on interpretation. And to class as defamation, a court as to positively prove the crime, which would mean they would have to prove her claims to be false. Which they can't.

2019-09-29 00:10:48 UTC  

Claims she couldn't support.

2019-09-29 00:10:52 UTC  

thing is whether she was an expert or not, whether it was a lecture containing lies or biased explanations or not, she was prosecuted for *defaming a long dead religious figure* - which is a blasphemy judgement no matter how you try to interpret it

2019-09-29 00:10:55 UTC  

a claim that was supported

2019-09-29 00:10:59 UTC  

and therefore isnt defamation

2019-09-29 00:11:04 UTC  

No it wasn't supported

2019-09-29 00:11:14 UTC  

The claim itself is supported

2019-09-29 00:11:25 UTC  

maybe not in that seminar...to the court's disgression

2019-09-29 00:11:35 UTC  

However it isnt an untruth

2019-09-29 00:11:36 UTC  

If he were a paedophile then why continue living with his wife after she turned 18?

2019-09-29 00:11:40 UTC  

If this were true.

2019-09-29 00:11:51 UTC  

Thats a silly argument

2019-09-29 00:12:00 UTC  

whether it was supported or not is irrelevant

2019-09-29 00:12:00 UTC  

having sex with a child is a pedophilia

2019-09-29 00:12:06 UTC  

Because he was married. And marriage is a sacred bond under Allah, regardless of age. The question is **why he married a godsdamn child**

2019-09-29 00:12:10 UTC  

no matter if you keep them around afterwards

2019-09-29 00:12:23 UTC  

many pedos have relationships with elders while fucking kids

2019-09-29 00:12:42 UTC  

Correct, it's "pedophilic disorder, psychosexual disorder, generally affecting adults, characterized by sexual fantasies about or attempts to engage in sexual acts with a prepubescent child of the same or opposite sex."

2019-09-29 00:12:57 UTC  

whether its true or not doesnt even matter

2019-09-29 00:13:07 UTC  

Sorry libs, can't prove he was a paedophile.

2019-09-29 00:13:10 UTC  

We also don't know if she was his only underage concubine.

2019-09-29 00:13:20 UTC  

Only his most notable.

2019-09-29 00:13:37 UTC  

"And marriage is a sacred bond under Allah"