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same word
two different meanings
and we were using the second
this man speaks the truth
@Uksio same, but for Virginia.
Again as political argument the State refers to whoever is in charge as a political entity. Doesn’t mean local or otherwise
that is a false equivalence
no it’s not
and it is at the very core of the issue
libertarians will agree with me on this
wtf
However, we’re talking about the specific legal confines of a state itself. From the constitutional sense, it refers to the states; the specific regions of the country with their own political autonomy.
by your argument, a british citizen would conisder the EU and the UK the same
oh hi im british
both fuction as their 'goverment'
Yes they are political entities with the power projection are they not?
well the UK isnt a state
@SnowPirate67 we would just call that a government.
the State is the government at large
it’s a loose term
each state has its own devolved parliament here
there isn't enough resolution to even hold a conversation if you don't make the distinction to keep them seperate
Unless if made specific, which, within the context of the constitution, refers to the individual regions that became known as “states.”
not in the civil war or seccesion context
the state is primary
the federal gov is secondary
Here you go
therefore saying 'the state has a monopoly on force' confuses the issue
Or, for those who aren’t American, the individual principality/region had primacy over the main governing body.
^^
however, for the europeans they don't make that distinction; it's all centralized or nothing
wait snowpirate, if you wouldnt refer to the american states as states what term would you use then?
for them, the authority on the local level comes from the top
for us, it comes form the bottom
Think about it like the Swiss government. You have the main Swiss government and then all of the principalities that make up Switzerland.
It’s the State as a whole. The “State” is the entire Govt from local to the federal. It’s all one and the same political entity as the US govt
i’ll link this again for you to read