Message from @Mikey

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2019-09-25 11:21:01 UTC  

Isn't it great that regulations prevented Morrison's from buying out all the major supermarkets in my town and prevent a monopoly. Now we have fantastic competition between all the major brands. <:hypersmugon:544638648721604608>

2019-09-25 11:21:03 UTC  

Facebooks user data reflects steep loses. I'm not sure if anyone has seen their quarterly reports over the past few years?

2019-09-25 11:21:30 UTC  

Don’t regulate.
Let Facebook do what it wants.
Whatever regulation you put in, you have to put in on *every single possible competitor* to Facebook.
That’s what Facebook wants.
It makes the cost to start a competitor higher.

2019-09-25 11:21:30 UTC  

Anyone?

2019-09-25 11:21:36 UTC  

I would add to that

2019-09-25 11:21:53 UTC  

Correct, @Scale_e.

2019-09-25 11:21:58 UTC  

Facebook and other social media groups need to be forced to choose between being publishers or platforms and be regulated accordingly

2019-09-25 11:22:00 UTC  

I don’t want my data being sold to the Chinese govt thank you very much

2019-09-25 11:22:03 UTC  

facebook is fine if it decides if its a publisher and not a platform. theyve been trying to be both

2019-09-25 11:22:08 UTC  

The cost to entry into the social media market is already pretty high

2019-09-25 11:22:25 UTC  

I don't like my data being sold to my Gov

2019-09-25 11:22:29 UTC  

@Eccles agreed

2019-09-25 11:22:32 UTC  

Facebook can comply with regulation. They’re huge.
If you force the small fries to jump through hoops, they’re going to develop different products that don’t have the cost of entry.
And we’re stuck with Facebook.

2019-09-25 11:22:38 UTC  

I don't like my data

2019-09-25 11:23:07 UTC  

That's right, Scale.

2019-09-25 11:23:18 UTC  

Free markets work, bruh.

2019-09-25 11:23:23 UTC  

Tbh how would preventing Facebook from selling individuals data made the price of entry higher?

2019-09-25 11:23:39 UTC  

Because you can’t make a law exclusive to one company

2019-09-25 11:23:46 UTC  

Or how would making it so Facebook can't ban users for wrong think cause the bar for entry to rise?

2019-09-25 11:23:46 UTC  

It has to be generally applied

2019-09-25 11:23:54 UTC  

Yes, but that doesn't answer me.

2019-09-25 11:23:57 UTC  

How does it?

2019-09-25 11:24:04 UTC  

That's working from the presumption that the regulation has to be difficult to enforce for example a law saying you have to police hate speech while a free speech law would actually lower to cost to entry reducing the need to moderate because they'd be legally covered

2019-09-25 11:24:07 UTC  

This is just an example but the idea is it doesn't just flow one way

2019-09-25 11:24:37 UTC  

How does preventing Facebook and any other company for that matter from selling user data to the gov or foreign governments raise the bar of entry?

2019-09-25 11:24:49 UTC  

When it comes to social media, if you define yourself as a platform, then obeying regulation becomes almost trivial for entrants

2019-09-25 11:25:00 UTC  

It's only if you want to be a publisher that you have severe barriers

2019-09-25 11:25:06 UTC  

They're not economics majors, barely read beyond conjecture of the lobbies you've referenced, Scale. Even scarier is the fact many corporations go on public campaigns criticizing the operation of their respective industries to evoke public demand for regulation. 😉

2019-09-25 11:25:08 UTC  

What you're describing is more of a trend at which point I refer to whom is making the regulations - boomer - politicians and leftists

2019-09-25 11:26:39 UTC  

Ok. Facebook is a hive of leftist scum and villainy, right?
I know it, you know it, we all know it.
Let’s say you want to start a competitor, and make it a right wing version of Facebook?
Now you can’t.
So you don’t bother making *any* platform.

Let’s say we make rules that make it harder to monetize the sale of data.
Ok. Facebook has a metric dick tonne of lawyers. They can comply with the law. They can adjust.
You? Wanting to start up a competitor? You’re new. You don’t have a tonne of lawyers. You can’t do that.
So you make something else.

Facebook becomes the only game in town.

2019-09-25 11:27:18 UTC  

You’re throwing a pebble at Facebook, and dropping a boulder on startups.

2019-09-25 11:27:28 UTC  

You're point isn't wrong but it is representative of a trend rather then a rule

2019-09-25 11:27:37 UTC  
2019-09-25 11:27:59 UTC  

That assumes they've engaged in publishing, Eccles. If Facebook engages in publishing, as does Discord.

2019-09-25 11:28:11 UTC  

how to get women to send anything through phone
Get her to say "feet are not a sexual object"
Then reply with :
"ok then send me feet pics RIGHT NOW"

2019-09-25 11:28:13 UTC  

I never said harder to monetise, I said ban the sale of. If everyone can't do it, where's the issue?

2019-09-25 11:28:22 UTC  

I'd personally question the idea of regulation in relation to privacy to begun with

2019-09-25 11:28:36 UTC  

You know Facebook listens to and records your messanger voice chats?

2019-09-25 11:28:40 UTC  

Again. Facebook. Army of lawyers. They can adapt.
Startups can’t.

2019-09-25 11:28:55 UTC  

@Scale_e Make different laws for startups.

2019-09-25 11:28:57 UTC  

Easy