Message from @Ethaneth
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@UnfilteredGarbage Am aware.
OT still forms the basis that the NT uses to try to sound legitimate though.
Jesus didn't say for slaves to obey their masters, that was St Paul
@Ethaneth Jesus also wants you to abandon your families if they don't believe hard enough
Yes
So does the Buddha.
The NT does promote ideals of shirking materialism and tolerance towards your fellow man. Which is extremely broadly applicable to really any social cause. Again, the NT is geared towards reformation of pretty much any type.
and this ladies and gentlemen, is why i hate atheist types, see: @Win Roe
(NT also includes Revelation, just saying)
As opposed to conservative religious orthodoxies like Islam or Judaism
Revelations is a clusterfuck and probably should have been considered apocryphal imho
Slavery throughout history wasn't always chattel slavery. That word was used for what we in America called "indentured servitude" a lot.
Yeah.
Hey I'm just saying, mohammed isn't the only religious guy who did a bad @Boop / 브파 / C'thUwU I'm not saying christfags bad
It was relevant in context
It wasn't just a random jab at jesus
Except for when you take slaves of your conquered neighbor tribes. Especially the philistines.
Then it's chattel slavery.
and always has been.
How is saying leave your family for your faith a bad thing, when people do of their own volition, such as arhats in Buddhism?
@Win Roe it's more about Mohammed's moral shortcomings being made doctrinal to Islam than about Mohammed himself being "le bad guy"
@Cryosite that's just not what chattel slavery is my dude
The Bible contains regulations for how to ~~enslave~~ indentured servitude your fellow Jews. But prisoners of war were not given the same dignity.
I won't disagree with you regarding the OT, but when it comes to the passage from St Paul I don't think he was endorsing chattel slavery, and anyway the Church opposes slavery and did so before America abolished it
@UnfilteredGarbage that's what I was getting at but whatever
African slaves were more often captured by neighboring tribes and sold to whites.
Yes it is.
Chattel slavery refers to the process of systematically transferring entire populations into generational slave labor sheerly for the purpose of industry
Blacks did that
So did the jews.
so did arabs
and most cultures around the time
even eurocucks
The slavery in the Bible includes chattel slavery.
Capturing POWs and then using them as marks of wealth or as domestic aids and farmhands really isn't the same.
Although, in fairness, I don't know the specifics of Jewish slavery practices, I'm speaking more from Mediterranean history so maybe I'm wrong
...You do know where Israel is and historically was, right?
slavs are a literal race of slaves, it's where the word slave comes from
if that isn't chattel slavery I don't know what is
the Epistle of Paul to Philemon is about encouraging a master to take back his slave who had run away
because the slave wanted to return