It wasn't just a random jab at jesus

Except for when you take slaves of your conquered neighbor tribes. Especially the philistines.

Then it's chattel slavery.

and always has been.

How is saying leave your family for your faith a bad thing, when people do of their own volition, such as arhats in Buddhism?

@Win Roe it's more about Mohammed's moral shortcomings being made doctrinal to Islam than about Mohammed himself being "le bad guy"

@Cryosite that's just not what chattel slavery is my dude

The Bible contains regulations for how to ~~enslave~~ indentured servitude your fellow Jews. But prisoners of war were not given the same dignity.

I won't disagree with you regarding the OT, but when it comes to the passage from St Paul I don't think he was endorsing chattel slavery, and anyway the Church opposes slavery and did so before America abolished it

@UnfilteredGarbage that's what I was getting at but whatever

African slaves were more often captured by neighboring tribes and sold to whites.

Yes it is.

Chattel slavery refers to the process of systematically transferring entire populations into generational slave labor sheerly for the purpose of industry

Blacks did that

So did the jews.

so did arabs

and most cultures around the time

even eurocucks

The slavery in the Bible includes chattel slavery.

Capturing POWs and then using them as marks of wealth or as domestic aids and farmhands really isn't the same.
Although, in fairness, I don't know the specifics of Jewish slavery practices, I'm speaking more from Mediterranean history so maybe I'm wrong

...You do know where Israel is and historically was, right?

slavs are a literal race of slaves, it's where the word slave comes from

if that isn't chattel slavery I don't know what is

the Epistle of Paul to Philemon is about encouraging a master to take back his slave who had run away

because the slave wanted to return

Well yeah, where the fuck else was he going to go, realistically?

Anyway.

There are bits in the Bible that, if you choose to focus on them and ignore the other bits, can lead someone to decide slavery is bad. It takes personal interpretation being given primacy over literal or total interpretation. And when Christians do that, and push good morals above what is found in the pages of the book, we get moral progress.

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Now, if we keep moving past that and into even better grounds, you'll find less and less of the original material making the cut.

gotta trim the weeds that overgrow

honk

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I shan't go so far as to throw out the baby with the bathwater

theres a reason christianity came after judaism, someone else had a different idea, removed the bad jewy bits, etc

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@Cryosite we hit that point back in the 60s when protestant demonations systematically gave up any pretentions of religious elitism and just became a 'nondemoninational' voting bloc

I mean you can do that with almost every religion, it's the dogma and the slave mentality of religion that causes moral regression, the natural conclusion of moral progression would be abandoning religion, which just creates issues

I don't know what I'm saying

fuck you all