Message from @Cryosite

Discord ID: 628096232027324436


2019-09-30 05:07:37 UTC  

Jesus isn't an individualist

2019-09-30 05:07:43 UTC  

@Cryosite the OT is considered pretty much entirely irrelevant by most christians, beyond quoting it to sound smart.

2019-09-30 05:07:56 UTC  

Jesus is a cool dude, he died for you. Muhammad raped little girls, that's bad.

2019-09-30 05:07:57 UTC  
2019-09-30 05:08:20 UTC  

OT still forms the basis that the NT uses to try to sound legitimate though.

2019-09-30 05:08:28 UTC  

Jesus didn't say for slaves to obey their masters, that was St Paul

2019-09-30 05:08:29 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613767975614283832/628095790476296212/47d.jpg

2019-09-30 05:08:30 UTC  

@Ethaneth Jesus also wants you to abandon your families if they don't believe hard enough

2019-09-30 05:08:37 UTC  

Yes

2019-09-30 05:08:41 UTC  

So does the Buddha.

2019-09-30 05:08:50 UTC  

The NT does promote ideals of shirking materialism and tolerance towards your fellow man. Which is extremely broadly applicable to really any social cause. Again, the NT is geared towards reformation of pretty much any type.

2019-09-30 05:08:56 UTC  

and this ladies and gentlemen, is why i hate atheist types, see: @Win Roe

2019-09-30 05:09:11 UTC  

(NT also includes Revelation, just saying)

2019-09-30 05:09:12 UTC  

As opposed to conservative religious orthodoxies like Islam or Judaism

2019-09-30 05:09:30 UTC  

Revelations is a clusterfuck and probably should have been considered apocryphal imho

2019-09-30 05:09:37 UTC  

Slavery throughout history wasn't always chattel slavery. That word was used for what we in America called "indentured servitude" a lot.

2019-09-30 05:09:38 UTC  

Yeah.

2019-09-30 05:09:49 UTC  

Hey I'm just saying, mohammed isn't the only religious guy who did a bad @Boop / 브파 / C'thUwU I'm not saying christfags bad

2019-09-30 05:10:02 UTC  

It was relevant in context

2019-09-30 05:10:10 UTC  

It wasn't just a random jab at jesus

2019-09-30 05:10:11 UTC  

Except for when you take slaves of your conquered neighbor tribes. Especially the philistines.

2019-09-30 05:10:15 UTC  

Then it's chattel slavery.

2019-09-30 05:10:24 UTC  

and always has been.

2019-09-30 05:10:35 UTC  

How is saying leave your family for your faith a bad thing, when people do of their own volition, such as arhats in Buddhism?

2019-09-30 05:10:43 UTC  

@Win Roe it's more about Mohammed's moral shortcomings being made doctrinal to Islam than about Mohammed himself being "le bad guy"

2019-09-30 05:10:55 UTC  

@Cryosite that's just not what chattel slavery is my dude

2019-09-30 05:11:01 UTC  

The Bible contains regulations for how to ~~enslave~~ indentured servitude your fellow Jews. But prisoners of war were not given the same dignity.

2019-09-30 05:11:16 UTC  

I won't disagree with you regarding the OT, but when it comes to the passage from St Paul I don't think he was endorsing chattel slavery, and anyway the Church opposes slavery and did so before America abolished it

2019-09-30 05:11:28 UTC  

@UnfilteredGarbage that's what I was getting at but whatever

2019-09-30 05:11:35 UTC  

African slaves were more often captured by neighboring tribes and sold to whites.

2019-09-30 05:11:37 UTC  

Yes it is.

2019-09-30 05:11:40 UTC  

Chattel slavery refers to the process of systematically transferring entire populations into generational slave labor sheerly for the purpose of industry

2019-09-30 05:11:51 UTC  

Blacks did that

2019-09-30 05:11:58 UTC  

So did the jews.

2019-09-30 05:11:58 UTC  

so did arabs

2019-09-30 05:12:00 UTC  

and most cultures around the time

2019-09-30 05:12:04 UTC  

even eurocucks

2019-09-30 05:12:22 UTC  

The slavery in the Bible includes chattel slavery.

2019-09-30 05:12:48 UTC  

Capturing POWs and then using them as marks of wealth or as domestic aids and farmhands really isn't the same.
Although, in fairness, I don't know the specifics of Jewish slavery practices, I'm speaking more from Mediterranean history so maybe I'm wrong

2019-09-30 05:13:13 UTC  

...You do know where Israel is and historically was, right?

2019-09-30 05:13:22 UTC  

slavs are a literal race of slaves, it's where the word slave comes from