Message from @Jack of Trades
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I'd say about half of the far-right will support Israel, just because Jews in Israel are not in Europe or the United States, and a significant percentage of them dislike Palestinians even more than Jews.
A smaller percentage of the alt-right isn't anti-semitic at all, and think as long as Jews don't control an overwhelmingly disproportionate share of social power things should be OK.
The David Dukes of the world are super rare, and even actual anti-semites will often be OK with a supporting a lone Jew as long as they think that Jew isn't part of the NWO.
will never understand anti-semitism it exactly the same as the far left and their hatred of white people
@yearspastmatter I don't see Ilhan Omar being critical of Jewish lobby as a bad thing and the fact she has had everything come down on her as hard as it has since shows some of that power (the sudden interest in her marriage, the condemnation from both sides, etc). Is it unreasonable to point out a group with so much money and influence? Its not even subject to foreign lobbying laws because loopholes.
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@Arthur Grayborn What is your definition of "far right" I hate these "left" and "right" terms.
I think you underestimate how sick of things people are getting
The MIGA meme didn't come from no where
@Ϻ14ᛟ - The far right is a mixture of ethnonationalists, hyper-traditionalists, and ethnocentric libertarians. You've got a lot of Dark Enlightenment theory in there, like race realism.
There are too many competing ideologies to claim the alt right stands for any idea in particular. It's more so a loose-knit coalition of right wing dissenters, who have bones to pick with the mainstream establishment.
Jesse Lee Peterson and Thomas Sowell are people that I would consider alt-right, because they're very traditional, and could be accurately described as right wing dissenters.
They're not ethnonationalists, but they are traditionalists and libertarians.
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@Arthur Grayborn I'm saying "far right" is subjective. Its better to just name the ideologies specifically like you just did.
"ethnonationalists", Traditionalists and whatnot aren't at all mostly supportive of Israel. They're mostly against Israel and know about Jewish power.
Your definition of "far right" is essentially what other people who identify with the "Alt Right" label, label as "Alt Right" as an umbrella term for all these things.
JLP and Thomas Sowell are not Alt Right lmfao.
Thomas Sowell is just a Conservative.
@yearspastmatter I was going to say earlier, better representation of Alt Right imo is to listen to Enoch or Striker. Those two are at the top of the list for who best represents the majority nowadays. White Nationalists, Third Positionists, etc.
Jesse Lee Peterson and Thomas Sowell are good examples of what the alt-right would be for black people, with a heavy emphasis on traditional family structures, Christian values, and libertarian ethos.
Jordan Peterson probably reflects the more sane wing of the alt-right for white people, because he does acknowledge the importance of biological determinism and tends to emphasize Christian heritage and ethos. He's had some level of support from Kanye West.
People like Richard Spencer and Mark Collette are strictly ethnonationalist, and fringe even among the alt-right.
Alt Right is literally the most broad political term then
Which is why no one anymore identifies with it
execept maybe Spencer and his retarded twitter followers
@Vir I see it as "They're the alternative for that group"
We should be willing to acknowledge that "alt-right" is an umbrella term though, and it does in fact include a lot of very popular black, Hispanic, Asian, and Jewish speakers.
Libertarianism, traditionalism, ethnic focus, and a mixture of biological and cultural determinism tend to be the driving factors of the alt-right. There are a lot of very popular black conservatives who acknowledge that part of the racial gap might be genetic, but we also need to focus on cultural factors.
O R A N G E H O R S E B A D !
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Every time you see an Asian dude plugging Western Culture, and demanding that he be recognized as American and not an Asian dude, he's basically alt-right. Especially if libertarian, traditionalist, and Christian.
The Alt Right is hardly Libertarian. It grew out of Libertarianism a couple years ago at least. Most people in the Alt Right aren't religious either. Its like 50% Atheist/Agnostic, 40% Christian, 10% Pagan. I would say "Alt Right for Black people" is more Black Nationalists, Louis Farrakhan, Muhammad Ali, Hoteps, etc.
Spencer and Collett are the only Alt Right people you've mentioned so far lol. @Arthur Grayborn
Doesn't make it a bad thing. He's not in the Richard Spencer wing.
HISPANICS ARE FUCKING BASED
Ali is based
@Ϻ14ᛟ - The alt-right started with the Dark Enlightenment. Curtis Yarvin was literally a fucking Jew, and his views have become far more popular in recent years.
Alt Right is literally anyone who isent a boomer conservative/classic liberal or a socialist
"Dark Enlightenment" is just NRx and NRx is heavily infiltrated by Zionist shills
It expanded and diversified over time, just like capitalist and communist theory.
You have Laissez Faire, Regulated, and Welfare versions of capitalism.
Just like communism has Maoism, Trotskyism, Stalinism, and so forth.
The alt-right is a mixture of NRX, traditionalism, ethnonationalist, and so forth.
No one cares about the Alt right its too broad for anyone to be apart of
@Vir - Capitalism is just as broad.
Laissez Faire Capitalism
Regulated Capitalism
Anti-Monopoly Capitalism
Welfare Capitalism
Keynesian Capitalism
Then of course you've got the mixed-system approach, which incorporates elements of socialism.
how?
@Arthur Grayborn Nearly everyone of note who identifies as Alt Right is now anti-Capitalist.
whart part of a mixed economy is socialist?
As well as anti-Communist
yeah but you dont hear people describing their political views as in "Yeah im just a capitalist"
If the alt-right was economics, Richard Spencer would be a Social Darwinist and Ben Shapiro would be a Regulatory State Capitalist.