Message from @Ϻ14ᛟ

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2019-07-16 02:38:26 UTC  

I typically only watch Collett when he has a good guest on or is specifically covering a topic that I want to hear about. Only ever hear NWG on Collett's show.

Imo there is better people to follow more closely who more accurately represent majority of Alt Right beliefs, not to say those guys aren't good though.

2019-07-16 02:39:17 UTC  

yeah Collett's speaking style is not my favorite so like you I watch only when there's a good guest

2019-07-16 02:39:35 UTC  

NWG is a hell of an orator though when he really gets going

2019-07-16 02:39:43 UTC  

From the looks of it, that Jewish guy was alt-right because he didn't trust the left to actually protect Jews from violence, and didn't trust the mainstream right to not fuck things up.

Furthermore, he saw that a lot of the far right was composed of pro-Israel evangelical Christians.

2019-07-16 02:40:31 UTC  

Given the way the left attacks Jewish people, and the fact that a lot of the actual physical assaults on Jews are carried out by black men, I can't say I blame him.

2019-07-16 02:40:46 UTC  

Hell, just look at the anti-semitism of the Labour Party.

2019-07-16 02:41:13 UTC  

and look at the ridiculous excuses the democratic leadership makes for Ilhan Omar and her ilk

2019-07-16 02:41:23 UTC  

"she has a different experience with words"

2019-07-16 02:41:24 UTC  

You see this same kind of thinking in The Lobby documentary where the Israel lobby is focused on trying to get the left under control because they feel like they already have the right under control but its aged badly since then. Support only seems to have fallen as time goes by.

2019-07-16 02:42:46 UTC  

I'd say about half of the far-right will support Israel, just because Jews in Israel are not in Europe or the United States, and a significant percentage of them dislike Palestinians even more than Jews.

A smaller percentage of the alt-right isn't anti-semitic at all, and think as long as Jews don't control an overwhelmingly disproportionate share of social power things should be OK.

2019-07-16 02:43:28 UTC  

The David Dukes of the world are super rare, and even actual anti-semites will often be OK with a supporting a lone Jew as long as they think that Jew isn't part of the NWO.

2019-07-16 02:44:01 UTC  

will never understand anti-semitism it exactly the same as the far left and their hatred of white people

2019-07-16 02:44:07 UTC  

@yearspastmatter I don't see Ilhan Omar being critical of Jewish lobby as a bad thing and the fact she has had everything come down on her as hard as it has since shows some of that power (the sudden interest in her marriage, the condemnation from both sides, etc). Is it unreasonable to point out a group with so much money and influence? Its not even subject to foreign lobbying laws because loopholes.

2019-07-16 02:44:43 UTC  

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2019-07-16 02:45:12 UTC  

@Arthur Grayborn What is your definition of "far right" I hate these "left" and "right" terms.

2019-07-16 02:45:26 UTC  

I think you underestimate how sick of things people are getting

2019-07-16 02:45:39 UTC  

The MIGA meme didn't come from no where

2019-07-16 02:46:29 UTC  

@Ϻ14ᛟ - The far right is a mixture of ethnonationalists, hyper-traditionalists, and ethnocentric libertarians. You've got a lot of Dark Enlightenment theory in there, like race realism.

There are too many competing ideologies to claim the alt right stands for any idea in particular. It's more so a loose-knit coalition of right wing dissenters, who have bones to pick with the mainstream establishment.

2019-07-16 02:47:46 UTC  

Jesse Lee Peterson and Thomas Sowell are people that I would consider alt-right, because they're very traditional, and could be accurately described as right wing dissenters.

They're not ethnonationalists, but they are traditionalists and libertarians.

2019-07-16 02:48:31 UTC  

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2019-07-16 02:50:08 UTC  

@Arthur Grayborn I'm saying "far right" is subjective. Its better to just name the ideologies specifically like you just did.
"ethnonationalists", Traditionalists and whatnot aren't at all mostly supportive of Israel. They're mostly against Israel and know about Jewish power.

Your definition of "far right" is essentially what other people who identify with the "Alt Right" label, label as "Alt Right" as an umbrella term for all these things.


JLP and Thomas Sowell are not Alt Right lmfao.
Thomas Sowell is just a Conservative.

2019-07-16 02:51:15 UTC  

@yearspastmatter I was going to say earlier, better representation of Alt Right imo is to listen to Enoch or Striker. Those two are at the top of the list for who best represents the majority nowadays. White Nationalists, Third Positionists, etc.

2019-07-16 02:51:19 UTC  

Jesse Lee Peterson and Thomas Sowell are good examples of what the alt-right would be for black people, with a heavy emphasis on traditional family structures, Christian values, and libertarian ethos.

Jordan Peterson probably reflects the more sane wing of the alt-right for white people, because he does acknowledge the importance of biological determinism and tends to emphasize Christian heritage and ethos. He's had some level of support from Kanye West.

People like Richard Spencer and Mark Collette are strictly ethnonationalist, and fringe even among the alt-right.

2019-07-16 02:52:57 UTC  

Alt Right is literally the most broad political term then

2019-07-16 02:53:16 UTC  

Which is why no one anymore identifies with it

2019-07-16 02:53:39 UTC  

execept maybe Spencer and his retarded twitter followers

2019-07-16 02:53:42 UTC  

@Vir I see it as "They're the alternative for that group"

2019-07-16 02:53:53 UTC  

We should be willing to acknowledge that "alt-right" is an umbrella term though, and it does in fact include a lot of very popular black, Hispanic, Asian, and Jewish speakers.

Libertarianism, traditionalism, ethnic focus, and a mixture of biological and cultural determinism tend to be the driving factors of the alt-right. There are a lot of very popular black conservatives who acknowledge that part of the racial gap might be genetic, but we also need to focus on cultural factors.

2019-07-16 02:54:16 UTC  

O R A N G E H O R S E B A D !

2019-07-16 02:54:22 UTC  

I'm pretty awful, yes

2019-07-16 02:54:47 UTC  

Kek.

2019-07-16 02:54:48 UTC  

Every time you see an Asian dude plugging Western Culture, and demanding that he be recognized as American and not an Asian dude, he's basically alt-right. Especially if libertarian, traditionalist, and Christian.

2019-07-16 02:55:06 UTC  

The Alt Right is hardly Libertarian. It grew out of Libertarianism a couple years ago at least. Most people in the Alt Right aren't religious either. Its like 50% Atheist/Agnostic, 40% Christian, 10% Pagan. I would say "Alt Right for Black people" is more Black Nationalists, Louis Farrakhan, Muhammad Ali, Hoteps, etc.

Spencer and Collett are the only Alt Right people you've mentioned so far lol. @Arthur Grayborn

2019-07-16 02:55:07 UTC  

Doesn't make it a bad thing. He's not in the Richard Spencer wing.

2019-07-16 02:55:17 UTC  

HISPANICS ARE FUCKING BASED

2019-07-16 02:55:31 UTC  

Ali is based

2019-07-16 02:55:55 UTC  

@Ϻ14ᛟ - The alt-right started with the Dark Enlightenment. Curtis Yarvin was literally a fucking Jew, and his views have become far more popular in recent years.

2019-07-16 02:56:25 UTC  

Alt Right is literally anyone who isent a boomer conservative/classic liberal or a socialist

2019-07-16 02:56:25 UTC  

"Dark Enlightenment" is just NRx and NRx is heavily infiltrated by Zionist shills

2019-07-16 02:56:53 UTC  

It expanded and diversified over time, just like capitalist and communist theory.

You have Laissez Faire, Regulated, and Welfare versions of capitalism.

Just like communism has Maoism, Trotskyism, Stalinism, and so forth.

The alt-right is a mixture of NRX, traditionalism, ethnonationalist, and so forth.