Message from @Ares
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But the Ukrainians beat them.
aside from maybe georgia
Tsar was not sending the best jews to Uraine, as Trump would put it
@Uksio no, it was there when Ukraine was part of the Polish Commonwealth
ye
Bogdan lived during the commenwalth years...
And he's know in infamy here.
Well not here
In the different parts of pre-partition Poland the Polish-Jewish relations ended up looking quite differently: they were the worse in the Prussian part and the best in the Austrian part. And this appears to be largely because of the way the Jooz tended to react to Polish nationalism which, as time went by, ended up being the most defining factor in Polish politics. In the Prussian part, where the Jewish enlightenment was in full force, the Jooz largely assimilated with German society (ironically enough) and had no interest in allying themselves to the Poles who didn;t want to assimilate. In the Austrian part the Jews were largely left alone by the government and a lot of them ended up going quite isolationist (though there were also some stories of integration into the Imperial apparatus as that was seen as a good thing by the Habsbourgs, though not enforced). this lead to them being far more inclined to support Polish nationalist causes, especially since the Habsbourg tactic in Galicia was to pit the Polish and Ukrainian nationalist against one another, and the Jooz preferred the Polish one for a plethora of reasons. In the Russian Empire the situation was more complicated, but indeed the Russian Empire did enforce segregation. The Russian part is also where all the major Polish uprisings took place and the Jewish community understandably didn;t want anything to do with that for understandable reasons (on top of religious reasons) so they alienated *both* sides by not choosing either side basically.
In the Jewish folklore.
i dont speak essay
I'm not speaking to u, so it's fine nigger
understandable, have a nice day
@Tonight at 11 - DOOM well, the Germans pursed a very... Strict... Germanisation policy...
After the war there were 2 major visions of Poland among the Polish elite. A state based on ethnic and cultural uniformity and a federation based on Poland, Lithuania and Ukraine
we need more florida men
the Jews tended to be more inclined towards the latter
understandably
Yeah, if I remember correctly, the general was a hardcore Federalist...
but 1) that one failed in 1922 2) tbh, there was no part for the Jews in it to begin with, at least not as an autonomous community.
because the Jews did not occupy any particular territory
And thought that the treaty which was signed was a complete cowardiance.
it wasn't
Dude
it was political
Be happy you don't have a mini israel
Inside your borders
Tbh
it was signed by the main "cultura/ethnic uniformity" guys
they INTENTIONALLY did not want more territory
@Tonight at 11 - DOOM and came back to bite them after that...
Well, shit happens
Plus the Jewish minority was pretty universally seen as backwards - at least in the way it interfaced with broad society
go look what French Jews thought of Polish Jews at the time
they despised them