Message from @☩ ✠ Valka ✠ ☩

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2019-07-18 19:33:59 UTC  

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2019-07-18 19:34:14 UTC  

They used to be very high up in people's minds

2019-07-18 19:35:01 UTC  

And afaik people still think Greenpeace is doing mostly good things

2019-07-18 19:50:19 UTC  

If Greenpeace is mostly not doing good things, what are they doing? Out of curiosity. Don't really know that much about them other than they do environmental protests.

2019-07-18 19:54:41 UTC  

Yall talking shit about obama watch out theres a plane bout to blow up in congress and the squad is gonna jump out of it

2019-07-18 20:33:28 UTC  

Aloha snackbar

2019-07-18 20:41:01 UTC  

@TheCinemaShow They're still doing environmental activism, but their internal structure is so authoritarian and thus becomes dogmatic that they often go against real science. Their activism causes more harm than good.

2019-07-18 20:41:56 UTC  

They're exactly like SJW's. Dissenting voices can't get a word in, so they turn into an authoritarian echo chamber.

2019-07-18 20:46:58 UTC  

There's also the extended damage they're causing. Because of their dogmatism, they brainwash other citizens who then act the same way. For example my grandfather successfully protested the Zwentendorf AKW (a planned nuclear power plant in Austria) living on nothing but donations. That plant could've helped the country tremendously, thanks to him it just turned into a money sink before it was stopped. It also made him an insufferable father, he had eight children who all had to endure his immense ego and lack of care.

2019-07-18 20:48:38 UTC  

I have nothing against people who are pro-environment, in fact I always support the preservation of natural land if it makes any sense. But some people push this idea to the extreme to the detriment of the society.

2019-07-18 20:53:51 UTC  

Or just take Germany. These stupid NPCs are in the process of stopping all of their nuclear power plants.

2019-07-18 20:54:12 UTC  

This is thanks to groups like Greenpeace pushing out alarmist propaganda.

2019-07-18 20:55:47 UTC  

No one can explain why they're against this source of power after they see the statistics on energy safety.
So what this means is that the citizens are effectively donating to groups that then brainwash the citizens to go against science.

2019-07-18 20:57:08 UTC  

Interesting. Good to know, thanks @ETBrooD . I do tend to view environmentalism as a truly non-partisan issue that we should all support, but unfortunately the simple concept of "Hey, let's not fuck up our planet" get co-opted by leftists to push their alarmist propaganda. Seems Greenpeace is yet another group doing that.

2019-07-18 20:57:27 UTC  

Indeed

2019-07-18 20:59:07 UTC  

If you think about it, your grandparent damaged the environment more by blocking the nuclear plant.

2019-07-18 21:00:24 UTC  

Yeah, and it's not that I don't understand him, I probably would've supported him back then. It's a propaganda machine that causes this.

2019-07-18 21:01:26 UTC  

This is why I find it so laughable when people say journalism used to be objective. No it never was objective.

2019-07-18 21:01:52 UTC  

Journalists can only be objective if they abide by the scientific method, which they don't.

2019-07-19 13:18:54 UTC  
2019-07-19 15:02:11 UTC  

Has ANTIFA ever achieved anything?

2019-07-19 15:32:12 UTC  

They helped NSDAP to get in power.

2019-07-19 15:32:50 UTC  

Not the achievement they were hoping for, but it's something.

2019-07-19 15:48:00 UTC  

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2019-07-19 15:48:15 UTC  

WTF are you talking about @leavethisbotnet

2019-07-19 15:48:59 UTC  

The german communist movement.

2019-07-19 15:49:09 UTC  

I thought they called themselves that.

2019-07-19 15:50:29 UTC  

"we'll protect you against communism" was NSDAP's big thing

2019-07-19 15:59:09 UTC  

Sure; communists

2019-07-19 15:59:13 UTC  

Not Antifa though

2019-07-19 15:59:55 UTC  

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistische_Aktion>
`The first German movement to call itself Antifaschistische Aktion was proclaimed by the German Communist Party (KPD) in their newspaper Rote Fahne in 1932 and held its first rally in Berlin on 10 July 1932, then capital of the Weimar Republic.`

2019-07-19 16:00:03 UTC  

They are the same fucking thing.

2019-07-19 16:00:31 UTC  

Disparate to modern incarnations

2019-07-19 16:01:32 UTC  

9 years prior

2019-07-19 16:05:18 UTC  

`The first local branches of the RFB were established in July 1924.[2][3][4] The group's inaugural nationwide meeting was held in February 1925`

2019-07-19 16:06:30 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/598762957257703438/601807071121506324/unknown.png

2019-07-19 16:06:31 UTC  

Street battles between extremist factions made the German public lose all confidence in the Weimar government, which could not maintain order.

2019-07-19 16:07:43 UTC  

`The KPD depended on the Proletarian Hundreds (German: Proletarische Hundertschaften) to protect their meetings and demonstrations, but this organization was banned in 1923.`

2019-07-19 16:08:08 UTC  

Neither the NSDAP nor Antifa were the first of these extremist factions.