It'd help to look at the wikipedia article

God, I can't believe I have to do this....

TL;DR: The USA and UK got into a war against eachother over pigs

There was a single casualty....

a single pig.

Did Congress declare war?

Or did the UK declare a war instead?

I don't even find the words like starting with "decl" (declared, declaration, etc.)

So no war was declared. Not an official state of war.

And no shots were fired, so not un-official skirmish either.

By any standard, it has nothing to do with war.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/4hu7hc/the_us_congress_has_not_declared_war_since_1941/

apparently there hasn't been a war declared by Congress since 1941

I know.

does that mean that the Korean War wasn't a war, if Congress didn't declare it to be as such?

what about Vietnam?

USA just does "world policing". Either with drones or with boots on the ground. They just "fuck the Constitution, LOL".

Well Korean War has shots fired at humans, and causualties, mass casualties, and was obviously a de-facto state of war (even for USA).

How is that comparable to "Pig War" which even according to article linked by you, did not result in declaration of war and also **zero fucking casualties on any side**.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quasi-War
Is a conflict to be considered a war if it's not declared but there are casualties (or if there are no casualties but it's declared)? Or do both conditions (Congress has to declare a formal war, and there has to be casualties) have to be met for it to be considered a war? In other words, does the conflict have to be a de facto war, or can it also be a de jure war?

The level of mental gymnastics is insane

I could consider Antifa vs. govt to be an undeclared civil war if and only if police started shooting Antifa members. So far Antifa has conducted a one-sided war against the govt, which is ironic because usually govt does one-sided war against others (via drones).

Which would lead me to believe govt is actually on Antifa's side (even though Antifa is not on govt's side).

If there's a civil war, who's the other faction? Alt-Right?

A “one-sided war” is still a war. Just because you don’t personally believe it does not mean what goes on in America isn’t already happening

Everybody who isn't a member of Antifa, I suppose

Was the ICE Facility "Firebomber" (I'm using this in quotes, because he didn't even firebomb the fucking place right) shot dead by police, or was it ICE that yeeted him?

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/07/15/antifa-activist-shot-dead-trying-to-attack-ice-detention-facility-n2550031

this article says it was the police

Well, the police didn't shoot at other members of Antifa.

So it has to be 2 or more members of Antifa then?

Antifa is the enemy faction in that war. You kill all of them, unless they surrender.

And if they do, they go to POW camps **indefinitely** and **without trial**.

If there was an actual civil war in USA, with millions combatants, you'd see suspension of constitutional rights of perceived enemy faction members. This leads me to believe there's not yet a civil war in USA.

If there was a civil war, govt would do to all socialists what govt did to all Japanese heritage USA citizens during WW2.

"Guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Antifa is really bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

>Right-wing violence is higher than left-wing violent

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Antifa just needs some daddy govt rod and spanking.

"Guys, why won't people join our movement?"

Maybe because it's violent