Message from @The Electric Lizard

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2019-08-04 00:53:17 UTC  

Which you now complain about.

2019-08-04 00:53:36 UTC  

Its a problem of Free Markets of course, I don't support Laissez Faire Capitalism i do believe that there should be some restrictions on companies that have monopiles

2019-08-04 00:53:59 UTC  

Communist.

2019-08-04 00:54:30 UTC  

I am not even close to being a Communist although i used to be

2019-08-04 00:54:36 UTC  

Feudalism is the way forward

2019-08-04 00:54:39 UTC  

No

2019-08-04 00:54:42 UTC  

Just no

2019-08-04 00:58:18 UTC  

Even Adam Smith opposed Monopolies and he was a very important figure in the creation of Capitalism

2019-08-04 01:00:31 UTC  

Daily reminder that Adam Smith was 1st and foremost a moral philosopher and believed that man was naturally imbued with a instinct towards the good and this is what his economic writings were based upon. This being obviously just bollocks and a fad of the time, there is not rational justification for taking Adam Smith's reasoning as a serious, and even less so a valid one.

2019-08-04 01:01:39 UTC  

get rekt, Liberal

2019-08-04 01:01:48 UTC  

Its just one example though, Monopolies are not a good thing they don't really provide any benefit to society

2019-08-04 01:02:19 UTC  

I would consider myself to be a right leaning minor libertarian, Not a Liberal

2019-08-04 01:02:27 UTC  

Agreed, we should abolish the State, the ultimate monopoly on violence

2019-08-04 01:02:35 UTC  

dab

2019-08-04 01:02:44 UTC  

We shouldn't Abolish the State

2019-08-04 01:02:55 UTC  

But you said monopolies were bad

2019-08-04 01:03:40 UTC  

They are, And the State can deal with it, However if the State did not interfere in the market at all it would be more difficult for Monopolies to develop

2019-08-04 01:03:55 UTC  

But the state IS a monopoly

2019-08-04 01:04:20 UTC  

At least the Liberal state

2019-08-04 01:04:27 UTC  

If we could reset the economy a Minarchist State would likely work best

2019-08-04 01:04:29 UTC  

the feudal state wasn't

2019-08-04 01:05:08 UTC  

However because the state has already interfered with the economy if this was done now it would only increase the power of monopiles

2019-08-04 01:05:45 UTC  

I feel like ur just reciting talking points and not tackling the issue of the state itself being a monopoly

2019-08-04 01:05:52 UTC  

The State may have a monopoly on violence but that is necessary, I don't like it but i is necessary

2019-08-04 01:06:13 UTC  

Sup Doom, lit name change

2019-08-04 01:06:29 UTC  

sup, antisemite

2019-08-04 01:06:36 UTC  

For example what if someone steals something and refused to give it back, How does the owner of it get it back without calling on the state to inflict violence on the thief?

2019-08-04 01:06:52 UTC  

You could have a decentralized state

2019-08-04 01:06:57 UTC  

with local power structures

2019-08-04 01:06:59 UTC  

"Facebook in Czechia deletes people's posts that mention Tommy Robinson, outrageous say experts" (Google Translate is pretty decent from the quick check I made): https://zpravy.aktualne.cz/domaci/facebook-maze-prispevky-se-jmenem-tommyho-robinsona/r~f17b1a44b50211e989de0cc47ab5f122/

2019-08-04 01:07:47 UTC  

You would still end up with a central power albeit a smaller central power but a central power nonetheless with a monopoly on violence

2019-08-04 01:08:11 UTC  

They didn't have that before the Enlightenment

2019-08-04 01:08:15 UTC  

In order to have any semblance of order the state needs to have the power to inflict violence

2019-08-04 01:08:29 UTC  

you had local lords

2019-08-04 01:08:38 UTC  

over whom the king only had limited power

2019-08-04 01:08:49 UTC  

and they would be the arbiters of things local

2019-08-04 01:08:56 UTC  

And those local lords had a monopoly on the use of violence in their county

2019-08-04 01:09:15 UTC  

The monopoly of violence is not removed it is just spread to local areas

2019-08-04 01:09:16 UTC  

depends

2019-08-04 01:09:37 UTC  

You are just moving the monopoly around, You are not actually removing it