Message from @ETBrooD
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As long as it works halfway decent
called it, Agonizes 😉
What "called it", it's not a secret
I've been arguing that taxes are theft from day 1
Everyone here who knows me knows this about me
Im not going to get into that hornets nest again😂
I don't know you from Jack. But with the best will in the world, you're wrong
~~lets go for full ubi, but _it also means you can legaly buy people on ubi_~~
yes
legalize debt slavery
free the markets
Like I said, I accept the status quo
I'm not a delusional AnCap, I just like the ideology
^my opinion on Anarcho- communism
People who ask for UBI are straight up communists
The legitimate role of the state is to protect its citizenry from outside threats, through means of a system of objective laws and judiciary, to be the arbiter of last resort for it's citizens arguments, and to provide services as dictated by a voting majority
Taxation is a means of paying for it
Yes yes bla bla spare me that, I know the government has its function, that's not the issue
reee muh social contract😜
If government has a function then it has to be paid for
is welfare a legitimate function of government though? thats debatable
it falls into the third argument of that, agonizes
i mean, welfare states have only existed for like, 50 years
You don't need to convince me the taxes, as things are right now, aren't gonna go away
I'm not gonna try to abolish taxes, I know it won't happen
that's not what i'm trying to convince you of
only two things are certain in life: Death, and taxes
I just want socialists to back off and stop for a second
They have done enough damage already
ubi isn't socialist
I dont mean what i said was a good idea, just a fun thought experiment.
No usefull people would be on ubi because they would be bought or get a job, who would buy a cripple/useless person as a slave?
Yes it is
no, it isn't
Holy fuck
the purpose of ubi is not to make everyone's outcome the same, nor is it to nationalise the means of production
Ok explain to me how UBI is capitalist, or neither capitalist nor socialist
Ubi is just a way of redistributing money
the purpose of ubi is a pragmatic alternative to the current arrangement of welfare + tax allowances
nothing capitalist or socialist about it