Message from @The Electric Lizard

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2019-08-26 19:58:04 UTC  

Open borders only really benefits big companies since it just gives them access to cheap labour

2019-08-26 19:59:12 UTC  

It's mostly pushed by Neoliberals like Hillary Clinton than libertarians. But yes, open borders is a theoretical libertarian position, just that not many of the grassroots libertarians support it.

2019-08-26 19:59:21 UTC  

Bernie isn't really super left, so I don't expect him to support a sort of radical position like full on open borders

2019-08-26 19:59:42 UTC  

I'd go as far as to say that he isn't even moderate left

2019-08-26 19:59:48 UTC  

Open borders is not compatible with a soc dem welfare state

2019-08-26 19:59:56 UTC  

And Sanders is a socdem

2019-08-26 20:00:02 UTC  

"Moderately radical"

2019-08-26 20:00:15 UTC  

Bernie Sanders is mainly just a Social Democrat, Not even really an extreme one

2019-08-26 20:00:32 UTC  

US Democrats: Lets have open borders...
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Sweden Has an Explosion Problem
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6_7FWYZYjo

2019-08-26 20:00:46 UTC  

"Bernie is a centrist"

2019-08-26 20:00:51 UTC  

Hoo boy

2019-08-26 20:00:58 UTC  

Never said he was a centrist

2019-08-26 20:01:13 UTC  

"I'd go as far as to say that he isn't even moderate left"

2019-08-26 20:01:24 UTC  

🤔

2019-08-26 20:01:25 UTC  

Doesn't mean I said he's a centrist

2019-08-26 20:01:30 UTC  

Yes it does

2019-08-26 20:01:36 UTC  

You ruled out far left

2019-08-26 20:01:42 UTC  

You ruled out moderate left

2019-08-26 20:01:57 UTC  

Okay, I'll rephrase it

2019-08-26 20:02:04 UTC  

Centrist and or any sort of right-wing is the remaining options

2019-08-26 20:02:09 UTC  

It would leave some positions like Social Liberalism

2019-08-26 20:02:15 UTC  

My boy mr obvious getting recognition.

2019-08-26 20:02:36 UTC  

Instead of blanket left and right equivalence classes, judging by ideology is more informative

2019-08-26 20:02:50 UTC  

Bernie is a socialist

2019-08-26 20:02:51 UTC  

Done

2019-08-26 20:02:52 UTC  

Open border lgbt leftists.

2019-08-26 20:02:56 UTC  

How about that

2019-08-26 20:03:44 UTC  

Both Neoliberals and Soc Dems are "leftists", one ideology benefits from open borders, the other doesn't

2019-08-26 20:03:45 UTC  

So what if Bernie is a Socialist?

2019-08-26 20:04:42 UTC  

If they’re left, they’re authoritarian and wrong.

2019-08-26 20:04:56 UTC  

Nah, libertarian left is a thing

2019-08-26 20:05:00 UTC  

I don’t care about the nuance of their ideology. They’re just wrong

2019-08-26 20:05:01 UTC  

Ubi and shit

2019-08-26 20:05:06 UTC  

Libertarian is right

2019-08-26 20:05:08 UTC  

Noam Chomsky is a good example

2019-08-26 20:05:11 UTC  

Nah

2019-08-26 20:05:20 UTC  

Libertarian is tiny govt

2019-08-26 20:05:23 UTC  

Of a non-Authoritarian leftist

2019-08-26 20:05:55 UTC  

Now, it's pretty hard to be a far leftist and a hard libertarian

2019-08-26 20:06:06 UTC  

libertarian is just for small government, it's not exclusive to being right-wing

2019-08-26 20:06:08 UTC  

Because that doesnt manifest itself in any legitimate way