Message from @O'Possum

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2019-08-26 19:50:55 UTC  

...just not nationalist

2019-08-26 19:51:13 UTC  

Cultural I dont think applies here

2019-08-26 19:52:05 UTC  

[travel / world travel / pacific]
Couple forced to leave New Zealand’s most popular city because of how expensive it is

A couple has unleashed on one of the most popular cities in New Zealand, saying they were forced by costs of living to return to the UK.
> https://www.news.com.au/travel/world-travel/pacific/couple-forced-to-leave-new-zealands-most-popular-city-because-of-how-expensive-it-is/news-story/8fb94e39722c629ef51a49554aef7e09

2019-08-26 19:52:18 UTC  

Cultural Right Wing as in Social Conservatives and Paleoconservatives

2019-08-26 19:52:28 UTC  

Pat Buchanan and co.

2019-08-26 19:52:32 UTC  

Again

2019-08-26 19:52:43 UTC  

Culturally it could go either way generally speaking

2019-08-26 19:53:00 UTC  

I read a few articles and the Koch brothers don't seem to be exactly "open borders", they even stated this: "The president has a duty to enforce the nation’s immigration laws." They did support borders, they were only against the deportation of illegal immigrants. Which, sure, isn't super right leaning, but is 100% not complete open borders. Although if I misread it, feel free to correct me.

2019-08-26 19:53:02 UTC  

You could go for the "govt dont tell me what to do" sort of culture

2019-08-26 19:53:31 UTC  

[News]
Angry Father Confronts Antifa Agitators Blocking the Street in Bloomington After They Make His Children Cry
> https://amgreatness.com/2019/08/25/angry-father-confronts-antifa-agitators-blocking-the-street-in-bloomington-after-they-make-his-children-cry/

2019-08-26 19:54:29 UTC  

Tucker Carlson has taken that mantle in the current scenario

2019-08-26 19:54:48 UTC  

Uh-oh: Silicon Valley is building a Chinese-style social credit system
In China, scoring citizens’ behavior is official government policy. U.S. companies are increasingly doing something similar, outside the law.
> https://www.fastcompany.com/90394048/uh-oh-silicon-valley-is-building-a-chinese-style-social-credit-system

2019-08-26 19:56:43 UTC  

But generally even many economic right wingers don't go as far as open borders

2019-08-26 19:56:56 UTC  

They are pragmatic on this issue

2019-08-26 19:57:02 UTC  
2019-08-26 19:57:52 UTC  

Bernie Sanders praised communist Cuba and the Soviet Union in the 1980s
> https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/bernie-sanders-praised-communist-cuba-and-the-soviet-union-in-the-1980s

2019-08-26 19:58:04 UTC  

Open borders only really benefits big companies since it just gives them access to cheap labour

2019-08-26 19:59:12 UTC  

It's mostly pushed by Neoliberals like Hillary Clinton than libertarians. But yes, open borders is a theoretical libertarian position, just that not many of the grassroots libertarians support it.

2019-08-26 19:59:21 UTC  

Bernie isn't really super left, so I don't expect him to support a sort of radical position like full on open borders

2019-08-26 19:59:42 UTC  

I'd go as far as to say that he isn't even moderate left

2019-08-26 19:59:48 UTC  

Open borders is not compatible with a soc dem welfare state

2019-08-26 19:59:56 UTC  

And Sanders is a socdem

2019-08-26 20:00:02 UTC  

"Moderately radical"

2019-08-26 20:00:15 UTC  

Bernie Sanders is mainly just a Social Democrat, Not even really an extreme one

2019-08-26 20:00:32 UTC  

US Democrats: Lets have open borders...
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Sweden Has an Explosion Problem
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6_7FWYZYjo

2019-08-26 20:00:46 UTC  

"Bernie is a centrist"

2019-08-26 20:00:51 UTC  

Hoo boy

2019-08-26 20:00:58 UTC  

Never said he was a centrist

2019-08-26 20:01:13 UTC  

"I'd go as far as to say that he isn't even moderate left"

2019-08-26 20:01:24 UTC  

🤔

2019-08-26 20:01:25 UTC  

Doesn't mean I said he's a centrist

2019-08-26 20:01:30 UTC  

Yes it does

2019-08-26 20:01:36 UTC  

You ruled out far left

2019-08-26 20:01:42 UTC  

You ruled out moderate left

2019-08-26 20:01:57 UTC  

Okay, I'll rephrase it

2019-08-26 20:02:04 UTC  

Centrist and or any sort of right-wing is the remaining options

2019-08-26 20:02:09 UTC  

It would leave some positions like Social Liberalism

2019-08-26 20:02:15 UTC  

My boy mr obvious getting recognition.

2019-08-26 20:02:36 UTC  

Instead of blanket left and right equivalence classes, judging by ideology is more informative

2019-08-26 20:02:50 UTC  

Bernie is a socialist