Message from @Muten

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2019-08-25 03:41:31 UTC  

thats how you go individualist

2019-08-25 03:41:44 UTC  

stfu

2019-08-25 03:41:50 UTC  

Ok can you explain

2019-08-25 03:41:58 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613769167199535104/615028059791294477/67455582_2541269149237106_1206277608447148032_n.png

2019-08-25 03:42:28 UTC  

What do you mean "used to act as a collective"

2019-08-25 03:42:48 UTC  

Because alot of american history has been uuuh "propagandised" into a fantasy

2019-08-25 03:43:52 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613769167199535104/615028540731293696/68751543_10157487242164320_959544265711550464_n.png

2019-08-25 03:44:56 UTC  

well for example in general whites had collective interests and would vote/act collectively to enforce those interests, that still happens today (just look at how many whites vote republican) but to a far lesser extent

2019-08-25 03:45:55 UTC  

this also goes beyond race too

2019-08-25 03:45:59 UTC  

I would say that varies from person to person

2019-08-25 03:46:10 UTC  

I feel like your definition of collectivism is waaaaaay too broad

2019-08-25 03:46:22 UTC  

well you would say that since you're an individualist @Engineered Eldritch Catgirl

2019-08-25 03:46:38 UTC  

you all are lewdable...

2019-08-25 03:46:48 UTC  

It's just unworkable, like there's no way to get out of a collective because it's against human nature on your definition

2019-08-25 03:46:51 UTC  

...after enough liquor was ingested

2019-08-25 03:47:07 UTC  

From what i can see their voting republicans because the left playing racial identity, i/e the media and the democrats ect.

2019-08-25 03:47:17 UTC  

^

2019-08-25 03:47:22 UTC  

@Ethreen42 That's not collectivism.

2019-08-25 03:47:28 UTC  

yeah it isn't

2019-08-25 03:47:29 UTC  

Like I would define collectivism as identity politics

2019-08-25 03:47:37 UTC  

not "acting as part of a collective"

2019-08-25 03:47:40 UTC  

I have plenty of liquor ingested, an I can say, I would not lewd any of you

2019-08-25 03:47:46 UTC  

when we say collectivism we mean forced by big government

2019-08-25 03:47:48 UTC  

collectivism[ kuh-lek-tuh-viz-uh m ]SHOW IPA
EXAMPLES|WORD ORIGIN
noun
the political principle of centralized social and economic control, especially of all means of production.

2019-08-25 03:47:49 UTC  

because that's just difficult to conceptualise

2019-08-25 03:48:27 UTC  

@Jack of Trades scroll up, it was already defined differently

2019-08-25 03:48:28 UTC  

And there's no meaningful way to define individualism

2019-08-25 03:48:30 UTC  

China, communist russia, nazi occupied germany they all did it.

2019-08-25 03:48:36 UTC  

with that definition

2019-08-25 03:48:41 UTC  

@Ethreen42 Then that's a different concept

2019-08-25 03:49:03 UTC  

chineesium 100

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613769167199535104/615029847290544138/chineesium_craftsmanship.jpg

2019-08-25 03:49:03 UTC  

the only definition of individualism that would work against the collectivist definition would be the most extreme form of anarchism

2019-08-25 03:49:09 UTC  

oh god, can't believe a brony is here @Jack of Trades ohhidar

2019-08-25 03:49:20 UTC  

@Engineered Eldritch Catgirl 😛 How've you been deer?

2019-08-25 03:49:34 UTC  

being a tl;dr

2019-08-25 03:49:45 UTC  

ew

2019-08-25 03:49:46 UTC  

get it xD

2019-08-25 03:50:03 UTC  

Y'all gah

2019-08-25 03:50:04 UTC  

@Muten They're not opposites

2019-08-25 03:50:26 UTC  

The opposite of gov't enforced is NOT gov't enforced

2019-08-25 03:50:41 UTC  

They are opposed to eachother, yes they aren't opposites but they do oppose eachother