well for example in general whites had collective interests and would vote/act collectively to enforce those interests, that still happens today (just look at how many whites vote republican) but to a far lesser extent

this also goes beyond race too

I would say that varies from person to person

I feel like your definition of collectivism is waaaaaay too broad

well you would say that since you're an individualist @Engineered Eldritch Catgirl

you all are lewdable...

It's just unworkable, like there's no way to get out of a collective because it's against human nature on your definition

...after enough liquor was ingested

From what i can see their voting republicans because the left playing racial identity, i/e the media and the democrats ect.

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@Ethreen42 That's not collectivism.

yeah it isn't

Like I would define collectivism as identity politics

not "acting as part of a collective"

I have plenty of liquor ingested, an I can say, I would not lewd any of you

when we say collectivism we mean forced by big government

collectivism[ kuh-lek-tuh-viz-uh m ]SHOW IPA
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noun
the political principle of centralized social and economic control, especially of all means of production.

because that's just difficult to conceptualise

@Jack of Trades scroll up, it was already defined differently

And there's no meaningful way to define individualism

China, communist russia, nazi occupied germany they all did it.

with that definition

@Ethreen42 Then that's a different concept

chineesium 100

the only definition of individualism that would work against the collectivist definition would be the most extreme form of anarchism

oh god, can't believe a brony is here @Jack of Trades ohhidar

@Engineered Eldritch Catgirl 😛 How've you been deer?

being a tl;dr

ew

get it xD

Y'all gah

@Muten They're not opposites

The opposite of gov't enforced is NOT gov't enforced

They are opposed to eachother, yes they aren't opposites but they do oppose eachother

Individualism is voluntary, it happens that it is also not gov't enforced

Opposed yes, but based on a single criteria

Francis "Gabby" Gabreski was an ace pilot who flew with the 56th Fighter Group.

Point being, not 100% pure anarchism

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